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littleloogy 02-12-2014 10:46 PM
I just did it in an attempt to make my engine idle smoother. It seemed to help some, so I never changed it back. Saw @Enki; run similar pressures when he was on Full E. I saw no harm in running slightly higher idle pressures.

The point of my comment was to let everyone know I am seeing lower then targeted fuel pressures at idle.

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sidekick 02-12-2014 11:32 PM
I may have to give the higher fuel pressure at idle a shot, my car idles terribly. It may be masking some other issue, but better idle quality is better idle quality. #YOLO


:D

sidekick 02-13-2014 02:21 PM
Kings of Corn (HPFP + OIL)
 
I just edited my map, but I started thinking about the higher fuel pressure at idle/low load and I thought of a potential issue. We all know that the DISI has issues with fuel diluting the oil, do you guys think this might make it happen even faster?
@Enki; @littleloogy;

phate 02-13-2014 02:28 PM
The opposite, really. Higher pressure yields better atomization and less liquid fuel on surfaces.

littleloogy 02-13-2014 03:57 PM
I have ran Pennzoil Ultra from day 1. Every oil change (3,000 miles) I send a sample of the oil to Blackstone Laboratories. I have never had a problem with fuel dilution before or after I changed my fuel pressure settings. Even with really aggressive timing, my fuel in oil levels were almost non existent.

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sidekick 02-13-2014 09:29 PM
Well, the car does seem to idle a little smoother with the higher pressure and I don't hear as much popping in the exhaust either.

Enki 02-13-2014 10:56 PM
Cool, good to know it actually does something.

littleloogy 02-13-2014 10:59 PM
I knew there was some kind of reason for all your madness... Lol

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Enki 02-13-2014 11:28 PM
I like to think I put the "Mad" in "Science"

littleloogy 02-14-2014 09:02 AM
Emergency spill valve replacement kit
Get yours today at WWW.ohshitmyvalvestuckagain.com
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/02/14/7a4azyvu.jpg


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Enki 02-15-2014 01:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by littleloogy (Post 2450310)
There has been a mod for the button valve on the bottom part of the the spill valve. It helps keep the coils of the spring from touching. That's all fine and dandy, but what about the top? How do we keep that damn needle from sticking??? Well I may have finally come up with a fix (trial of course).

The problem we are facing is when the needle gets gummy, it sticks to the collar preventing the button valve from closing causing pressure to not build. To solve this issue, I crimped the spring directly to the needle on the solenoid.
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/02/12/ydasysyq.jpg
Picture illustrates spring securely attached to solenoid needle.

I then attached the spring to the needle and I am left with this.
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/02/12/pajejy6e.jpg


Theoretically speaking...
As the solenoid energizes it will have enough power to pull the needle up, and when it is not energized it will push it back down regardless of gummy residue.

I installed this in my pump, and it holds pressure fine. I will see when or if my valve starts to stick.

Thoughts or Comments?
This is potentially too important of a test to be buried deep in a thread about oil, and should get its own thread IMO.

Just sayin.

littleloogy 02-18-2014 08:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Enki (Post 2455161)
This is potentially too important of a test to be buried deep in a thread about oil, and should get its own thread IMO.

Just sayin.
GTFO would also suffice, therefore I will continue HERE. God, I hope we can figure this out.

Enki 02-18-2014 11:29 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by littleloogy (Post 2459247)
GTFO would also suffice, therefore I will continue HERE. God, I hope we can figure this out.
It's not a GTFO situation; I meant what I said in my prior post.

littleloogy 02-18-2014 11:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Enki (Post 2459396)
It's not a GTFO situation; I meant what I said in my prior post.
;-) I know, thank you.

himurax13 02-20-2014 08:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by littleloogy (Post 2453778)
Emergency spill valve replacement kit
Get yours today at WWW.ohshitmyvalvestuckagain.com
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/02/14/7a4azyvu.jpg


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Hmm, this looks useful. ;)

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littleloogy 02-22-2014 11:24 AM
Death occurred at 1900 hrs last night...
2,000 miles of E55
480 miles full E85 (winter/spring)
Pennzoil Ultra 5w30

I have restarted my test, we will see how far I can go on round 2.

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/02/23/temyruda.jpghttp://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/02/23/zematu2y.jpghttp://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/02/23/u8e4a6yb.jpghttp://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/02/23/he3y9ere.jpg



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Bratschist 02-22-2014 11:56 AM
My condolences. Are there any hardware change for round 2? If not, what makes you think it will be different?


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Enki 02-22-2014 01:09 PM
Seals in the retaining nut; should keep more of the oil out.
Def black death there. Was it difficult to extract everything from the retaining nut?

littleloogy 02-22-2014 01:40 PM
Nope, it only took a few mins. Shit came right out. I used kerosene.
I need to run this setup one more time. I did not start this test with a clean pump. My results of the oil test were tainted.
This pump has 18,000 miles of e 85 mixes. Who knows how much shit was in there prior to the start of this test.

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Bratschist 02-22-2014 02:08 PM
So no seals yet?


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littleloogy 02-23-2014 09:07 PM
@Enki; I drove 50 miles and pulled my pump again. Black death was beginning to form. Penn Ultra sucks for preventing death. In case you want to update the list of failures.

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Enki 02-23-2014 09:33 PM
What's the exact oil?

Also if you want to verify my findings, try out the Royal Purple listed in the OP; seems to be the best oil I've tested as far as full E85 goes.

littleloogy 02-23-2014 09:41 PM
Pennzoil Ultra 5w30 full synthetichttp://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/02/24/qa9equby.jpg

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littleloogy 02-23-2014 09:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Enki (Post 2466538)
What's the exact oil?

Also if you want to verify my findings, try out the Royal Purple listed in the OP; seems to be the best oil I've tested as far as full E85 goes.
You bet. next oil change. I'll try to verify.

mazdafreak 02-23-2014 10:52 PM
Once car is up and running, gonna try kendell oil. Says good for e85.



Also saw this...

http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/..._Fuel.aspxning

sidekick 02-24-2014 12:15 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mazdafreak (Post 2466618)
Once car is up and running, gonna try kendell oil. Says good for e85.



Also saw this...

http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/..._Fuel.aspxning
Broken link:
Best Motor Oil for Engines Using E85 Fuel

EDIT: Oddly enough, T6 seems to be one of the worst offenders in terms of black death forming, so I'm not sure that is a very good tip. At least in our case. That honda is most likely port injected and doesn't have to deal with the HPFP issues.

mazdafreak 02-24-2014 04:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sidekick (Post 2466659)
Broken link:
Best Motor Oil for Engines Using E85 Fuel

EDIT: Oddly enough, T6 seems to be one of the worst offenders in terms of black death forming, so I'm not sure that is a very good tip. At least in our case. That honda is most likely port injected and doesn't have to deal with the HPFP issues.

Thank you sir.


Yeah I kno its PI. But something to try also.



Ill be on 100% E soon to try some oils.

littleloogy 03-01-2014 02:33 PM
Just dumped the Pennzoil ultra... I am going to use Redline 10w30 for this run. I know I did say I was going to confirm royal purple but, was reading a lot about redline and wanted to give this a shot first.

I also cleaned my pump, so I will get some fresh data as to how this oil holds up.

On a personal note, I am about ready to take my engine apart. I have lost a HPFP mounting bolt. I have been searching for the past 5hrs with no luck. I think the speed got hungry. FML

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blackms3_71 03-01-2014 03:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by littleloogy (Post 2475658)
Just dumped the Pennzoil ultra... I am going to use Redline 10w30 for this run. I know I did say I was going to confirm royal purple but, was reading a lot about redline and wanted to give this a shot first.

I also cleaned my pump, so I will get some fresh data as to how this oil holds up.

On a personal note, I am about ready to take my engine apart. I have lost a HPFP mounting bolt. I have been searching for the past 5hrs with no luck. I think the speed got hungry. FML

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I am glad u are still going at it. I hope u find a good solution. Goodluck

Easter Bunny 03-01-2014 05:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by littleloogy (Post 2475658)
Just dumped the Pennzoil ultra... I am going to use Redline 10w30 for this run. I know I did say I was going to confirm royal purple but, was reading a lot about redline and wanted to give this a shot first.

I also cleaned my pump, so I will get some fresh data as to how this oil holds up.

On a personal note, I am about ready to take my engine apart. I have lost a HPFP mounting bolt. I have been searching for the past 5hrs with no luck. I think the speed got hungry. FML

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Have you dropped the under tray yet?

86AmishMs3 03-01-2014 06:09 PM
Guys trying random oils won't help. Only way to test an oil is to put 3/4 e85 and 1/4 oil in a pan and put it on a burner then turned on high.

Obviously.

Enki 03-01-2014 06:35 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 86AmishMs3 (Post 2475906)
Guys trying random oils won't help. Only way to test an oil is to put 3/4 e85 and 1/4 oil in a pan and put it on a burner then turned on high.

Obviously.
In before
http://www.mazdaspeedforums.org/foru...1&d=1393724121

Bratschist 03-01-2014 07:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Enki (Post 2475939)

Question, were you drinking wine while doing this test? Nice... Lol


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littleloogy 03-01-2014 08:29 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Easter Bunny (Post 2475879)
Have you dropped the under tray yet?
Yeah, I did. It ended up being in my radiator fan shroud standing up on its head (vertical) behind my fan in the corner where the radiator and the shroud meet.

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Enki 03-01-2014 08:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bratschist (Post 2476002)
Question, were you drinking wine while doing this test? Nice... Lol
No but I had a respiratory infection.

http://www.mazdaspeedforums.org/foru...ml#post1324983

blackms3_71 03-01-2014 08:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by littleloogy (Post 2476096)
Yeah, I did. It ended up being in my radiator fan shroud standing up on its head (vertical) behind my fan in the corner where the radiator and the shroud meet.

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Everytime i drop anything thats where it always is so weird

littleloogy 03-02-2014 09:20 PM
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Just thought I would update you on this God giving Oil. I am at 100 Miles, no Sticky Yet to report. I have been doing 20 miles Runs. Start engine, Drive for 15 miles normal driving, (Freeways, on ramps, stoplights ect...) then for 5 Miles drive it like you stole it, then park it. let Cool and repeat. At the 100 mile mark I decided to take a log. I only see one cell that fell in the high 1500's I am not worried about it.Attachment 149786

Enki 03-02-2014 09:29 PM
Do you know if the Redline is a Dexxos oil like the RP is? Honestly, I'd bet RP with your spill valve mod would be fixed totally. Could you post or pm me the details on what you did? I might be able to do this with another local car that could benefit from some full sauce.

littleloogy 03-02-2014 11:15 PM
They claim it exceeds GM's Dexos spec. I PMed you about the spill valve...

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sidekick 03-03-2014 12:15 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by littleloogy (Post 2476096)
Yeah, I did. It ended up being in my radiator fan shroud standing up on its head (vertical) behind my fan in the corner where the radiator and the shroud meet.

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That shit is such a bitch. IDK how it is on a genpu, but I spent a solid hour trying to get that blue clip from the intake manifold vacuum line out of there on my car. Found some unknown bolt as well. Lol.


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