Kings of Corn (HPFP + OIL)

[littleloogy]

I just did it in an attempt to make my engine idle smoother. It seemed to help some, so I never changed it back. Saw @Enki; run similar pressures when he was on Full E. I saw no harm in running slightly higher idle pressures.

The point of my comment was to let everyone know I am seeing lower then targeted fuel pressures at idle.

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[sidekick]

I may have to give the higher fuel pressure at idle a shot, my car idles terribly. It may be masking some other issue, but better idle quality is better idle quality. #YOLO

[sidekick]

I just edited my map, but I started thinking about the higher fuel pressure at idle/low load and I thought of a potential issue. We all know that the DISI has issues with fuel diluting the oil, do you guys think this might make it happen even faster?
@Enki; @littleloogy;

[phate]

The opposite, really. Higher pressure yields better atomization and less liquid fuel on surfaces.

[littleloogy]

I have ran Pennzoil Ultra from day 1. Every oil change (3,000 miles) I send a sample of the oil to Blackstone Laboratories. I have never had a problem with fuel dilution before or after I changed my fuel pressure settings. Even with really aggressive timing, my fuel in oil levels were almost non existent.

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[sidekick]

Well, the car does seem to idle a little smoother with the higher pressure and I don't hear as much popping in the exhaust either.

[Enki]

Cool, good to know it actually does something.

[littleloogy]

I knew there was some kind of reason for all your madness... Lol

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[Enki]

I like to think I put the "Mad" in "Science"

[littleloogy]

Emergency spill valve replacement kit
Get yours today at WWW.ohshitmyvalvestuckagain.com



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[Enki]

Originally Posted by littleloogy There has been a mod for the button valve on the bottom part of the the spill valve. It helps keep the coils of the spring from touching. That's all fine and dandy, but what about the top? How do we keep that damn needle from sticking??? Well I may have finally come up with a fix (trial of course). The problem we are facing is when the needle gets gummy, it sticks to the collar preventing the button valve from closing causing pressure to not build. To solve this issue, I crimped the spring directly to the needle on the solenoid. Picture illustrates spring securely attached to solenoid needle. I then attached the spring to the needle and I am left with this. Theoretically speaking... As the solenoid energizes it will have enough power to pull the needle up, and when it is not energized it will push it back down regardless of gummy residue. I installed this in my pump, and it holds pressure fine. I will see when or if my valve starts to stick. Thoughts or Comments?

This is potentially too important of a test to be buried deep in a thread about oil, and should get its own thread IMO.

Just sayin.

[littleloogy]

Originally Posted by Enki This is potentially too important of a test to be buried deep in a thread about oil, and should get its own thread IMO. Just sayin.

GTFO would also suffice, therefore I will continue HERE. God, I hope we can figure this out.

[Enki]

Originally Posted by littleloogy GTFO would also suffice, therefore I will continue HERE. God, I hope we can figure this out.

It's not a GTFO situation; I meant what I said in my prior post.

[littleloogy]

Originally Posted by Enki It's not a GTFO situation; I meant what I said in my prior post.

;-) I know, thank you.

[himurax13]

Originally Posted by littleloogy Emergency spill valve replacement kit Get yours today at WWW.ohshitmyvalvestuckagain.com Sent while cleaning my spill valve again...

Hmm, this looks useful.

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[littleloogy]

Death occurred at 1900 hrs last night...
2,000 miles of E55
480 miles full E85 (winter/spring)
Pennzoil Ultra 5w30

I have restarted my test, we will see how far I can go on round 2.





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[Bratschist]

My condolences. Are there any hardware change for round 2? If not, what makes you think it will be different?


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[Enki]

Seals in the retaining nut; should keep more of the oil out.
Def black death there. Was it difficult to extract everything from the retaining nut?

[littleloogy]

Nope, it only took a few mins. Shit came right out. I used kerosene.
I need to run this setup one more time. I did not start this test with a clean pump. My results of the oil test were tainted.
This pump has 18,000 miles of e 85 mixes. Who knows how much shit was in there prior to the start of this test.

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[Bratschist]

So no seals yet?


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[littleloogy]

@Enki; I drove 50 miles and pulled my pump again. Black death was beginning to form. Penn Ultra sucks for preventing death. In case you want to update the list of failures.

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[Enki]

What's the exact oil?

Also if you want to verify my findings, try out the Royal Purple listed in the OP; seems to be the best oil I've tested as far as full E85 goes.

[littleloogy]

Pennzoil Ultra 5w30 full synthetic

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[littleloogy]

Originally Posted by Enki What's the exact oil? Also if you want to verify my findings, try out the Royal Purple listed in the OP; seems to be the best oil I've tested as far as full E85 goes.

You bet. next oil change. I'll try to verify.

[mazdafreak]

Once car is up and running, gonna try kendell oil. Says good for e85.



Also saw this...

http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/..._Fuel.aspxning

[sidekick]

Originally Posted by mazdafreak Once car is up and running, gonna try kendell oil. Says good for e85. Also saw this... http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/..._Fuel.aspxning

Broken link:
Best Motor Oil for Engines Using E85 Fuel

EDIT: Oddly enough, T6 seems to be one of the worst offenders in terms of black death forming, so I'm not sure that is a very good tip. At least in our case. That honda is most likely port injected and doesn't have to deal with the HPFP issues.

[mazdafreak]

Originally Posted by sidekick Broken link: Best Motor Oil for Engines Using E85 Fuel EDIT: Oddly enough, T6 seems to be one of the worst offenders in terms of black death forming, so I'm not sure that is a very good tip. At least in our case. That honda is most likely port injected and doesn't have to deal with the HPFP issues.

Thank you sir.


Yeah I kno its PI. But something to try also.



Ill be on 100% E soon to try some oils.

[littleloogy]

Just dumped the Pennzoil ultra... I am going to use Redline 10w30 for this run. I know I did say I was going to confirm royal purple but, was reading a lot about redline and wanted to give this a shot first.

I also cleaned my pump, so I will get some fresh data as to how this oil holds up.

On a personal note, I am about ready to take my engine apart. I have lost a HPFP mounting bolt. I have been searching for the past 5hrs with no luck. I think the speed got hungry. FML

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[blackms3_71]

Originally Posted by littleloogy Just dumped the Pennzoil ultra... I am going to use Redline 10w30 for this run. I know I did say I was going to confirm royal purple but, was reading a lot about redline and wanted to give this a shot first. I also cleaned my pump, so I will get some fresh data as to how this oil holds up. On a personal note, I am about ready to take my engine apart. I have lost a HPFP mounting bolt. I have been searching for the past 5hrs with no luck. I think the speed got hungry. FML Sent while cleaning my spill valve again...

I am glad u are still going at it. I hope u find a good solution. Goodluck

[Easter Bunny]

Originally Posted by littleloogy Just dumped the Pennzoil ultra... I am going to use Redline 10w30 for this run. I know I did say I was going to confirm royal purple but, was reading a lot about redline and wanted to give this a shot first. I also cleaned my pump, so I will get some fresh data as to how this oil holds up. On a personal note, I am about ready to take my engine apart. I have lost a HPFP mounting bolt. I have been searching for the past 5hrs with no luck. I think the speed got hungry. FML Sent while cleaning my spill valve again...

Have you dropped the under tray yet?

[86AmishMs3]

Guys trying random oils won't help. Only way to test an oil is to put 3/4 e85 and 1/4 oil in a pan and put it on a burner then turned on high.

Obviously.

[Enki]

Originally Posted by 86AmishMs3 Guys trying random oils won't help. Only way to test an oil is to put 3/4 e85 and 1/4 oil in a pan and put it on a burner then turned on high. Obviously.

In before

[Bratschist]

Originally Posted by Enki In before

Question, were you drinking wine while doing this test? Nice... Lol


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[littleloogy]

Originally Posted by Easter Bunny Have you dropped the under tray yet?

Yeah, I did. It ended up being in my radiator fan shroud standing up on its head (vertical) behind my fan in the corner where the radiator and the shroud meet.

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[Enki]

Originally Posted by Bratschist Question, were you drinking wine while doing this test? Nice... Lol

No but I had a respiratory infection.

Resolving HPFP corn woes (black death/sticking spill valve)

[blackms3_71]

Originally Posted by littleloogy Yeah, I did. It ended up being in my radiator fan shroud standing up on its head (vertical) behind my fan in the corner where the radiator and the shroud meet. Sent while cleaning my spill valve again...

Everytime i drop anything thats where it always is so weird

[littleloogy]

Just thought I would update you on this God giving Oil. I am at 100 Miles, no Sticky Yet to report. I have been doing 20 miles Runs. Start engine, Drive for 15 miles normal driving, (Freeways, on ramps, stoplights ect...) then for 5 Miles drive it like you stole it, then park it. let Cool and repeat. At the 100 mile mark I decided to take a log. I only see one cell that fell in the high 1500's I am not worried about it.datalog6.csv

[Enki]

Do you know if the Redline is a Dexxos oil like the RP is? Honestly, I'd bet RP with your spill valve mod would be fixed totally. Could you post or pm me the details on what you did? I might be able to do this with another local car that could benefit from some full sauce.

[littleloogy]

They claim it exceeds GM's Dexos spec. I PMed you about the spill valve...

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[sidekick]

Originally Posted by littleloogy Yeah, I did. It ended up being in my radiator fan shroud standing up on its head (vertical) behind my fan in the corner where the radiator and the shroud meet. Sent while cleaning my spill valve again...

That shit is such a bitch. IDK how it is on a genpu, but I spent a solid hour trying to get that blue clip from the intake manifold vacuum line out of there on my car. Found some unknown bolt as well. Lol.