Resolving HPFP corn woes (black death/sticking spill valve)

[silvapain]

That quad ring does look a bit damaged front the pic. Pull it out (carefully) and inspect it.


Tapadatass

[mazdafreak]

I just put the pump back in, once I waste the rest of 85 and go back on 93, ill get better pics and inspect it better.


Has anyone consider kendell gt-1 oil??

[wolly6973]

Just saw a commercial for Sta-Bil ethanol treatment. You guys with running cars should check it out.
http://www.goldeagle.com/mobile/prod...z_ethanol.aspx

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[mazdafreak]

Originally Posted by wolly6973 Just saw a commercial for Sta-Bil ethanol treatment. You guys with running cars should check it out. Deprecated Browser Error Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I777 using Tapatalk 2

Hmmm.....what everyone else think??

[mrmonk7663]

Originally Posted by mazdafreak Hmmm.....what everyone else think??

@Enki @phate Some new stuff for yall to test out

[phate]

Somewhere in my E85 thread, we discussed it and someone tried it. From what I remember, it doesn't work, or we'd still be using it

[mazdafreak]

Does anyone sell ethanol compatable fuel lines etc? Im thinking of maybe replacing the line and the itfp soon.....and would like to see if there is any rust/buildup in the tank at all.


Idk what it is.....but the car just doesnt feel the same right now, im gonna do some maintenance work and also do a compression test this week....fp is good tho...idk. @phate, im gonna send you some logs on my 85 map if that is alright lol

Car just feels like it is running really rough.

[Enki]

Again, nothing additive wise will work.
Also again, the lines aren't the problem.

I'm really hoping to prove that beyond a shadow of a doubt when the goodies get in from JBR.

[mazdafreak]

Originally Posted by Enki Again, nothing additive wise will work. Also again, the lines aren't the problem. I'm really hoping to prove that beyond a shadow of a doubt when the goodies get in from JBR.

I'm not talking black death......I'm more concern about what is happening to the fuel lines/fuel tank since 85 is corrosive and may be damaging more than we think....and possibly gunk the lines up.

[Enki]

You'd think that oh, Phate, Bozo or I would have seen some issues about that; me being possibly the worst case since my car mostly sits.

[phate]

Originally Posted by mazdafreak I'm not talking black death......I'm more concern about what is happening to the fuel lines/fuel tank since 85 is corrosive and may be damaging more than we think....and possibly gunk the lines up.

Ethanol is NOT much more corrosive than gasoline. It's been sensationalized, and not much of a worry. Methanol, on the other hand, is.

[Enki]

Originally Posted by phate Ethanol is NOT much more corrosive than gasoline. It's been sensationalized, and not much of a worry. Methanol, on the other hand, is.

Bullshit. Drink some 200 proof and tell me if your stomach feels like it isn't corroded.

(lol)

[phate]

Originally Posted by Enki Bullshit. Drink some 200 proof and tell me if your stomach feels like it isn't corroded. (lol)

You've never had good shine, then!!

[Enki]

Originally Posted by phate You've never had good shine, then!!

Actually, I have. No flavor, or odor, couldn't even feel it go down. When it hit the stomach, however, it was like a nuke went off.

[bnoon]

Originally Posted by Enki Actually, I have. No flavor, or odor, couldn't even feel it go down. When it hit the stomach, however, it was like a nuke went off.

... but how did you car run on it?

[Enki]

The secret is attached.

[mazdafreak]

Originally Posted by phate Ethanol is NOT much more corrosive than gasoline. It's been sensationalized, and not much of a worry. Methanol, on the other hand, is.

Ahh I feel much better......only thing is the itfp filter getting clogged....I will drop tank soon to replace it and see what my tank looks like too.

[phate]

Originally Posted by mazdafreak Ahh I feel much better......only thing is the itfp filter getting clogged....I will drop tank soon to replace it and see what my tank looks like too.

It's pretty easy to drop. A couple straps and a couple lines. You DO need the SST to get the nut off of the itfp basket.

[mazdafreak]

Originally Posted by phate It's pretty easy to drop. A couple straps and a couple lines. You DO need the SST to get the nut off of the itfp basket.

You can only get that at the dealer right?


((Well the new itfp might have to wait......fucking left front axle boot is leaking grease everywhere....left front bearing has play and my right front coil is binding etc, which needs new top mount bearings or w.e they are called))

[mrmonk7663]

Where do you get SST? And how much does it cost?

[phate]

Originally Posted by mazdafreak You can only get that at the dealer right? ((Well the new itfp might have to wait......fucking left front axle boot is leaking grease everywhere....left front bearing has play and my right front coil is binding etc, which needs new top mount bearings or w.e they are called))

SST is dealer only, or you can try to find one on the forums to borrow.

I think you're talking about the torrington bearing?? The axial bearing with all the ball bearings in it in the top hat?

[mrmonk7663]

So do you buy this thing from the dealer or do you rent it from the dealer? We tried to drop a speed6 tank without the tool and it was a no go.

[phate]

Originally Posted by mrmonk7663 So do you buy this thing from the dealer or do you rent it from the dealer? We tried to drop a speed6 tank without the tool and it was a no go.

No, dealers suck, so you would have to buy it from them.

In a speed6, you don't have to drop the tank. The entire fuel pump basket comes up through the access hole under the back seat. In a speed3, you have to drop the tank, because the access hole isn't big enough.

The SST is to get the nut off of the fuel pump basket. You can drop the tank without any special tools.

[mazdafreak]

Originally Posted by phate SST is dealer only, or you can try to find one on the forums to borrow. I think you're talking about the torrington bearing?? The axial bearing with all the ball bearings in it in the top hat?

Yeah the top hat bearing or w.e on the coilover.....shit is annoying.....it will all be under warranty from bc tho...so I'm good there....but need a damn driver axle and wheel bearing.

I'll pick that tool up from the dealer soon too.

[GLORIFIEDBOZO]

Originally Posted by mazdafreak Does anyone sell ethanol compatable fuel lines etc? Im thinking of maybe replacing the line and the itfp soon.....and would like to see if there is any rust/buildup in the tank at all.

Don't think rust is an issue in a plastic tank

Originally Posted by phate You've never had good shine, then!!

This reminds me......


I am going to make an SST here soon, I have just been lazy. I will probably make a couple of them actually depend on how long it takes, and how much it costs.

[phate]

Originally Posted by GLORIFIEDBOZO Don't think rust is an issue in a plastic tank This reminds me...... I am going to make an SST here soon, I have just been lazy. I will probably make a couple of them actually depend on how long it takes, and how much it costs.

4 L's or 2 U's and a center attachment piece....easy as hell.

[Enki]

Originally Posted by phate In a speed3, you have to drop the tank, because the access hole isn't big enough.

Not mine. Lol.

MS3 ITFP Access Modification - YouTube

MS3 ITFP Access Modification - YouTube

[GLORIFIEDBOZO]

Originally Posted by phate 4 L's or 2 U's and a center attachment piece....easy as hell.

Yeah I got pics the last time I borrowed it from dj.

[mazdafreak]

Originally Posted by GLORIFIEDBOZO Don't think rust is an issue in a plastic tank This reminds me...... I am going to make an SST here soon, I have just been lazy. I will probably make a couple of them actually depend on how long it takes, and how much it costs.

You jackass haha.....well, maybe tearing the plastic tank apart! ((Falling apart inside))

But either way, I'm gonna check what it looks like after I drop the tank....Ohhh yeah, make me that tool!

[mrmonk7663]

When I say tried to drop it, I meant tried to get retainer nut plastic piece of shit off with a hammer and a screwdriver lol...The dropping was going to come after...good to know you don't have to drop the speed 6 tank though

Originally Posted by phate No, dealers suck, so you would have to buy it from them. In a speed6, you don't have to drop the tank. The entire fuel pump basket comes up through the access hole under the back seat. In a speed3, you have to drop the tank, because the access hole isn't big enough. The SST is to get the nut off of the fuel pump basket. You can drop the tank without any special tools.

I'll be down for one if you'll make it. Just tell me the cost of your troubles!!!

Originally Posted by GLORIFIEDBOZO Don't think rust is an issue in a plastic tank This reminds me...... I am going to make an SST here soon, I have just been lazy. I will probably make a couple of them actually depend on how long it takes, and how much it costs.

[mazdafreak]

So any new updates by anyone???


I have been pulling my spill valve like every couple of days/every weekend.....and have not got that sand looking build up at all so far.


I'm gonna pull the pump tomorrow and take it apart and see what I find.....since I have to replace the axle boot and axle seal too....car is ripped apart.

[Enki]

Originally Posted by mazdafreak So any new updates by anyone???

Um, well, you see....


...Maybe?

[mrmonk7663]

Spill the beans Enki...

[mazdafreak]

Originally Posted by Enki Um, well, you see.... ...Maybe?

Well maybe somebody forgot to post on this thread of their new findings lol

[Enki]

Or maybe there aren't any findings to report but there is progress?

[mazdafreak]

I'm trying to get some progress lol.....Car is down for a lil....cut axle boot....but pulling pump tonight to see any wear marks.

[GLORIFIEDBOZO]

I am sure @Enki will not withhold any info longer then nessecary, and personally I would rather wait until there is something substanial to report.

[Enki]

Totally all about not getting hopes up right now; better to be patient and confident in any results positive or otherwise than to come out guns blazing only to find out you've murdered everyone in a day care center.

[mazdafreak]

Well since I got a beater, and I run full 85, letting the car sit for a few days every week, anyone think it is bad???????

[Enki]

You're fine. Fuel systems are supposed to be air tight, and are usually under a little vacuum. I run 50/50 and pretty much only drive it a couple days out of the week as it is; last week I drove Sunday afternoon/evening, then it sat until Thursday afternoon.

No issues so far.