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[Tokay444]

i was knock limited to 280whp.
big maf here i come.

[helmetface]

Originally Posted by Tokay444 Sweet. How?

Hehe been happening for a while now. I made ~298/347 a loooong time ago on 93, no meth and my car only feels faster now haha

[Tokay444]

i did 280 and 340 on 93, v2 aeros and a test pipe.

[exentix]

i think daustin hit 308 342 on cpe 3". but like i said, he also has cbe so idk exactly how much that helped, and on top of that i think he has like 8k on the car so its basically brand new. but fwiw, i noticed a huge difference upping the intake size.

[Roddiy]

Originally Posted by Haltech You dont do much reading do you? I will tell you, go ahead and under estimate that car. Mark my words, a year from now you will change your tune about the ST being at its limits.

I've been reading all day about this ST crap, got nothing better to do.


My question is how can they make all that much power when their turbo is smaller, it's pushing 20psi already, which I don't see it going much farther than that, AND they have a smaller displacement.


My guess is they MIGHT break 300s with E85 and W/M, but they're not going any further than that without big turbos.


At which point this discussion is moot.


Either way once they DO start going BT, THEN they'll need more fueling, then we'll see something that might help us on our end. Point being it won't be cheap, and you sure as hell won't see that many modded STs running around.

Hell, I wouldn't pay well over a grand to go fully bolted/tuned and barely make 50 whp over stock.

Originally Posted by Tokay444 We don't break 300whp without meth/e85/nos...

Plenty of people out there break 300 w/o messing with fueling.

On E85/Meth we make closer to 330s, and NOS, well... Just ask Bucker


He was close to 400 on Dry-Shot

Originally Posted by Tokay444 i did 280 and 340 on 93, v2 aeros and a test pipe.

No DP? IC?


There's your answer

[Tokay444]

Originally Posted by exentix i ran 295 at the dyno day on stock cbe and tmic. daustin hit 308 pump gas...

Originally Posted by Roddiy On E85/Meth we make closer to 330s, and NOS, well... Just ask Bucker He was close to 400 on Dry-Shot No DP? IC? There's your answer

so we went from making 300 without meth/e85/nos to making 400 with, in one post?
congrats!

[Roddiy]

Originally Posted by Tokay444 so we went from making 300 without meth/e85/nos to making 400 with, in one post? congrats!

Over 5+ years of this platform existing :P


Either way, they made 313 W/ Nos, W/M.

With that kind of stuff we're close to 400.


That's the point.

[dead-zone]

I just can't wait to see what numbers can a ST with bolt ons and a tune do.

[Cujo]

so wait...... the faster it goes the less power it has.........?

[daustin]

Originally Posted by Tokay444 Sweet. How?

exentix is right. I hit 308whp and 341wtq on 93 pump gas at R/T last weekend. And I am stock downpipe.

No voodoo bullshit.

[Roddiy]

@cobb might have good news for them, i saw some stuff on their forums but perhaps they can give msf some insight?

I could just be wrong about this whole thing, they know for sure.

[Mclovin80]

I hope the ST comes standard with a 15 speed manual, so you can keep shifting to produce peak horsepower @ 2500...

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[Haltech]

Originally Posted by daustin exentix is right. I hit 308whp and 341wtq on 93 pump gas at R/T last weekend. And I am stock downpipe. No voodoo bullshit.

Then I would question the validity of that dyno... Dynapak or happy DJ or some off the wall shit? That number is awfully high.. 1320 and post trap speed.

[exentix]

Originally Posted by Haltech Then I would question the validity of that dyno... Dynapak or happy DJ or some off the wall shit? That number is awfully high.. 1320 and post trap speed.

It might have been a little of the happy side but nothing crazy. Dougs car is damn near brand new so his valves are probably still sprarkely clean. Iirc, it was around 500asl and 40-50 outside so it was good air I guess.

[Karmat]

Originally Posted by Haltech Then I would question the validity of that dyno... Dynapak or happy DJ or some off the wall shit? That number is awfully high.. 1320 and post trap speed.

Bone stock MS3 put down 245whp on that dyno that day. I'd have to agree that it probably reads slightly high.

[UnknownSuperhero]

305/341 on 91 today, no meth/e85 at 77 ambient 1,280 elevation.

I'm interested to see where the ST platform will go in the next couple years. Pretty sure people were saying the same shit about the MZR in the past.

[daustin]

Originally Posted by Karmat Bone stock MS3 put down 145whp on that dyno that day. I'd have to agree that it probably reads slightly high.

I was pretty sure that stock MS3 that ran first was 245hp.

[exentix]

And for comparison purposes, Justin (atvfreek) put down within 5whp what he did a few days before, and dantes was very close as well.

[Tokay444]

I was at the very end of the day when things had warmed up slightly.
No dp, and stock maf diametre.
Probably going to invest in the 3.5"maf aeros full 3" to turbo inlet. Not that I wasn't already planning on it.

[exentix]

Big maf is the way to go. One of the biggest differences I felt with a bolt on tbh. Ap I noticed a big difference, noticed NOTHING with stock sized intake tip combo.

[802MS3]

Originally Posted by exentix you had rpf1s?

yes I have RPF1's in 17x9.

[Karmat]

Originally Posted by daustin I was pretty sure that stock MS3 that ran first was 245hp.

Yes I'm retarted it was 245.