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Lex 07-22-2013 01:47 PM

The AP V3.0
 
Hey guys and gals, have a look at the pretty new AP V3.0

The interface and screen are much improved!

We're a COBB approved dealer and will be purchasing a few of these to have on hand.

http://pages.cobbtuning.com/V3-July-...Madj2LgPWBc%3D

http://pages.cobbtuning.com/rs/newva...p3-maz-002.jpg

http://pages.cobbtuning.com/rs/newva...s/2-gauges.jpg

DVM17 07-22-2013 01:48 PM

Awesome! I knew I waited too long to buy an AP for a reason!

mxlplx71 07-22-2013 01:49 PM

nice

leon78 07-22-2013 01:50 PM

"The V3 now supports up to 6 fully customizable gauges with 1/1000 resolution. Monitor all the parameters you want to see and customize each layout for street, strip or track."


Win^

dereeek 07-22-2013 01:52 PM

I'd only get if they buy mine back.

Ziggo 07-22-2013 01:53 PM

Screen brightness in the sun?

Zigatapatalka

mxlplx71 07-22-2013 01:54 PM

nb4 old aps 4sale everywhere

Lex 07-22-2013 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ziggo (Post 2171356)
Screen brightness in the sun?

Zigatapatalka

It has auto dimming. We'll hopefully get a few in shortly.

KiloMS3 07-22-2013 01:56 PM

So... Anyone selling their old one in Va?!

Javi 07-22-2013 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mxlplx71 (Post 2171359)
nb4 old aps 4sale everywhere

APs and Dashhawks

Ziggo 07-22-2013 01:57 PM

Is it still powered by the obd2 port? I didn't think that there was much power available on the port. It's why I was wondering about the screen.

Zigatapatalka

x09MS3GT 07-22-2013 01:57 PM

Yea this thing is AMAZING looking. Multiple parameter viewing, crisp resolution...

650 on top of the money i spent for the first AP makes me sad in the pants :(

Lex 07-22-2013 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ziggo (Post 2171369)
Is it still powered by the obd2 port? I didn't think that there was much power available on the port. It's why I was wondering about the screen.

Zigatapatalka

Yup, and hence it has a power on/off button.

Just to add, they are not going to discontinue the V2 AP. It will still tune the car, log, etc. just fine. What you are getting here is the bigger screen and multiple parameter viewing.

Agent_Orange 07-22-2013 02:00 PM

Sigh....Guess Cobb got me for another 6 hunid.

Realgib3 07-22-2013 02:01 PM

I have the number 13 AP ever...and I've been hanging onto it as long as possible...but for this... for this, I may have to give it up. This V3 looks amazing.

Dralphy 07-22-2013 02:02 PM

This seems really cool. Maybe some vendors will have them on sale ;).

Tyhackman15 07-22-2013 02:03 PM

There goes any chance of them fixing the always on issue of the current version...damn.

The new one had better have an auto-off feature, if they expect you to turn the thing off manually every time then that's just sad...

08cosmic3 07-22-2013 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leon78 (Post 2171349)
"The V3 now supports up to 6 fully customizable gauges with 1/1000 resolution. Monitor all the parameters you want to see and customize each layout for street, strip or track."


Win^

I'm already monitoring 6 at once with my Galaxy S2 and the Torque pro app via a blue tooth OBD2 reader. Cost was $30

PapaSmurf 07-22-2013 02:04 PM

I really hope they do a buy back or upgrade option.

Would be really shitty if they didn't, but Cobb is usually good with that stuff.

Modality14 07-22-2013 02:04 PM

itd be great if they had another upgrade special for the v2 owners..like send them a v2 and some $$ get a blank v3 to load maps on..or im jus being cheap idk lol

Ryguy 07-22-2013 02:07 PM

V2 resale just went to $8

symkaz 07-22-2013 02:07 PM

I need one of these!

RdotQelo 07-22-2013 02:11 PM

Wow. Definitely looks good.

Blackriver 07-22-2013 02:12 PM

How much to ship to south africa


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[R]usty 07-22-2013 02:12 PM

Anyone want to sell me there V2 I'll give you $200.

New one looks sweet but eh too much money.

ms3rick 07-22-2013 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryguy (Post 2171403)
V2 resale just went to $8

I don't see them going down too much.. I'm sure they will stay 400+ at least for another year

maisonvi 07-22-2013 02:15 PM

God damn Cobb, in the last 2 weeks I bought the Torque App for my phone, plus the mazda PIDS, plus a splitter cable and OBD2 bluetooth dongle. Not to mention a mount for the ap. Now its all usless.

PapaSmurf 07-22-2013 02:16 PM

Shit if cobb does a buyback or upgrade I am sure they will give you atleast $400 maybe more towards the V3.

Did they do the buyback for V1 to V2?

Lex 07-22-2013 03:56 PM

Ok, so COBB was not too clear on this being confidential so word got out.

The launch date has been move to tomorrow, July 23, 2013.

Dmurray06 07-22-2013 04:03 PM

Oh fuck...shits gonna get real.

shadow102 07-22-2013 04:03 PM

really cool looking but unless they do a really good buyback i am completely fine using my boost gauge and aeroforce interceptor

dan7225 07-22-2013 04:04 PM

$$$$ ??????

SAME PRICE !!

Dmurray06 07-22-2013 04:06 PM

$650

[R]usty 07-22-2013 04:06 PM

lol, 2 AP's just posted for sale.

Lex 07-22-2013 04:06 PM

What I am not seeing but can be a software upgrade are warnings for the different displayed parameters.

sidekick 07-22-2013 04:15 PM

Wow. I really hope they do a buyback... This is 10x better than the v2b.

Koke382 07-22-2013 04:26 PM

Im selling myne to buy this lmao

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sl33py24 07-22-2013 04:45 PM

From the PDF I just download it says u can use ur v2 tunes with no proble and transfers 40% faster

sl33py24 07-22-2013 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by manilaMS12 (Post 2171774)
@Lex; Do you know any info regarding flashing maps?
For instance, Is there any issues with transferring maps from a v2 to the v3? Will our current flashed maps be compatible with the v3 AP?

Did u not read what I just posted from cobbs PDF file it says its compatible and it transfers files 40% faster then v2

Mistersix 07-22-2013 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rustysurfsa (Post 2171416)
Anyone want to sell me there V2 I'll give you $200.

New one looks sweet but eh too much money.

I'm planning on upgrading and thinking 300 for my old one when i post it FS. Just sayin.

Lex 07-22-2013 05:07 PM

Maps etc should all be backwards compatible.

[R]usty 07-22-2013 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mistersix (Post 2171817)
I'm planning on upgrading and thinking 300 for my old one when i post it FS. Just sayin.

I'm getting the new one. I already have an old one I will keep as a spare or sell.

Haltech 07-22-2013 05:13 PM

All i want to know is, will this have an included VTECH light for when our VVT hits?

superskaterxes 07-22-2013 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Realgib3 (Post 2171383)
I have the number 13 AP ever...and I've been hanging onto it as long as possible...but for this... for this, I may have to give it up. This V3 looks amazing.

i have 51!!!

ibsir 07-22-2013 05:15 PM

Price point?

Str8 Tapping

Lex 07-22-2013 05:18 PM

$650 retail.

el_guapo 07-22-2013 05:22 PM

Hopefully there is a buyback for this

Lex 07-22-2013 05:45 PM

I think the 2 versions have a different customer in mind. Some people want to flash and forget while others love to monitor constantly. For those that don't care for looking or installing this in their car, the V2 and the V3 can coexist for different customers with different needs/wants.

Ziggo 07-22-2013 05:47 PM

I think there will be a buyback cause it makes sense for them. I bet thier incremental cost for these is low compared to the cost they sink in to developing the software and cracking the ECUs. For every used one that sells, they lose $$ compared to someone buying a new one, since the real value is in the license, not the hardware.

Simpler, if they sell you a $650 one with their incremental cost of $200, they make $450 today, but lost $450 tomorrow cause someone bought yours used instead of buying new.

If they sell you a $200 V3 if you trade in your V2, they make no money today, but make $450 tomorrow cause that someone bought new because used wasn't available.

If they sell you a $300 V3 if you trade in your V2, they make $100 today and $450 tomorrow.

It's a sliding scale, at $450 credit, everyone upgrading probably trades in. At $250 credit to upgrade, nobody does, electing instead to resale. Obviously they are better off with a buyback at some credit, over $250 per AP.

And let's face it, they have the mazda market pretty well cornered everyone needs tuned, and you can still be tuned with a V2. Every used AP that hits the used market is a new sale that doesn't happen cause there is not really a competing solution in terms of marketshare.

Zigatapatalka

Vader 07-22-2013 05:58 PM

Wow, a nice looking soluion. Good for the gen 2 guys to finally have a monitoring solution.

I'll save my pennies though, and keep my DH. Because, Gen Winning.




trololol.

breakfstincluded 07-22-2013 06:01 PM

I'd love to know if it can display the 6 parameters horizontal

jmhinkle 07-22-2013 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Realgib3 (Post 2171383)
I have the number 13 AP ever...and I've been hanging onto it as long as possible...but for this... for this, I may have to give it up. This V3 looks amazing.

Is that my old one? Didn't you buy my V1 when I got a V2? If so, I never realized it was number 13.

m4tic 07-22-2013 06:42 PM

what the fuck is this... i just bought a dashhawk... lol

i hope they include landscape funtionality

I can hear the AP v2 price drops

[For Sale]
Dashawk
AP

msantana101 07-22-2013 08:40 PM

Damn this revamp looks awesome. Thanks for the info Lex.


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Lex 07-22-2013 08:53 PM

Also COBB will be offering an utility to transition from one serial number to another from what they've presented.

sl33py24 07-22-2013 09:50 PM

I have 250 for used v2 lol

Evan@COBB 07-22-2013 10:10 PM

@Ziggo; is a smart dude. Y'all should listen to him more often. Just saying....

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breakfstincluded 07-22-2013 10:42 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbSn25PTKjA

Rallysport Direct has a nice unboxing

Darn, would've been nice to seee if paramters can be oriented horizontally

jk_ms3 07-22-2013 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evan@COBB (Post 2172370)
@Ziggo; is a smart dude. Y'all should listen to him more often. Just saying....

Sent from my COBB AccessPORT V3 using Tapatalk 2

If you did something like a $450 credit, I'd highly consider it, especially if you couple that with a group buy price. In fact, I'd probably be in. And I just spent time in a different post stating why I didn't think most people needed this upgrade.

Come on, Evan. Win me over!

Chev954 07-22-2013 10:49 PM

Came up.

+1 for @breakfstincluded; for beating my Youtube reference but no embedz sooooo I retract my point sir.





crtguns 07-22-2013 10:49 PM

I'd buy if it was wireless. fucking hate my cables.

Or you could just get a little bitty laptop and passthrough current AP

Dmurray06 07-22-2013 10:52 PM

Jesus...no ones ever happy.

LumberJack 07-22-2013 11:12 PM

Pure sex, love the screens and some very much needed improvements and functions especially for gen2 owners. I will buy if they have a trade in program.

Lex 07-22-2013 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ziggo (Post 2171907)
I think there will be a buyback cause it makes sense for them. I bet thier incremental cost for these is low compared to the cost they sink in to developing the software and cracking the ECUs. For every used one that sells, they lose $$ compared to someone buying a new one, since the real value is in the license, not the hardware.

Simpler, if they sell you a $650 one with their incremental cost of $200, they make $450 today, but lost $450 tomorrow cause someone bought yours used instead of buying new.

If they sell you a $200 V3 if you trade in your V2, they make no money today, but make $450 tomorrow cause that someone bought new because used wasn't available.

If they sell you a $300 V3 if you trade in your V2, they make $100 today and $450 tomorrow.

It's a sliding scale, at $450 credit, everyone upgrading probably trades in. At $250 credit to upgrade, nobody does, electing instead to resale. Obviously they are better off with a buyback at some credit, over $250 per AP.

And let's face it, they have the mazda market pretty well cornered everyone needs tuned, and you can still be tuned with a V2. Every used AP that hits the used market is a new sale that doesn't happen cause there is not really a competing solution in terms of marketshare.

Zigatapatalka

Ziggo is absolutely correct.

The "used" marketplace is an issue for any company and product when the product does not lose value quickly due to either wear/tear or functionality. Electronics rarely suffer from physical wear and tear and vehicle ECU pass-through flashing retains the same protocols over many years.

Imagine where the computer market would be without software that always "pushes" the need for higher hardware requirements.

However while the main functionality of the AP remains the same in terms of flashing, the added display functionality is worth a certain price. Without removing used/old APs from the marketplace their price will drop to the point that they will still exchange hands.

jmhinkle 07-22-2013 11:19 PM

I just don't see them offering a trade in program. Maybe a lower price point on the V2 to compete with the used market better is all. New one is nice, but I'll be sticking with my DashHawk and V2 for awhile I guess.

LumberJack 07-22-2013 11:22 PM

@Lex; I received some information from a pretty reliable source that deals with cobb heavily on the subaru side, was wondering if you can confirm this.


The release date was adjusted to tomorrow, but I was told that is for PRE ORDERS only and they still will not be shipping until Aug 1st.

breakfstincluded 07-22-2013 11:22 PM

If I had the V3 I definitly wouldn't leave it mounted when I leave the car. Some Stanced Subaru meth addict will probably see it try to make some money, or not realize we don't have the same ECU.

Opposed to my somewhat ancient looking DH that I just leave there 24/7 and people think it has the same display as indiglo watches.

jk_ms3 07-22-2013 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by breakfstincluded (Post 2172442)
If I had the V3 I definitly wouldn't leave it mounted when I leave the car. Some Stanced Subaru meth addict will probably see it try to make some money, or not realize we don't have the same ECU.

Opposed to my somewhat ancient looking DH that I just leave there 24/7 and people think it has the same display as indigo watches.

My wife's car was broken into because some meth head thought that the remote to her car stereo was an MP3 player. They'd probably think that the new ap was a fancy phone or something, and when they realized that it wasn't, it'd probably just get tossed in the trash.

Then again, I live in the ghetto.

weakdog85 07-22-2013 11:26 PM

i'm definitely in on group buy and trade in program. this looks amazing.

DTKII 07-22-2013 11:38 PM

If everything said is true including the buy back, I will buy this sum bitch as soon as its released. Especially if the rumor about changing launch control and ffs on the fly is true... Fuck you Cobb fuck you..


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Enki 07-22-2013 11:39 PM

I'm down to upgrade just for the faster flash. Rest is icing.

jakk 07-22-2013 11:50 PM

Once these get out more, it would be cool if someone could confirm if they will work with a splitter in tandem with an Aeroforce Interceptor. I know that people said an OBDII splitter did not work with the v2 and interceptor. I would really like to be able to have multiple parameters monitored with a min/max value which is a feature the interceptor does not have. Of course, I would have a hard time spending the extra money unless some sort of rebate was offered on the v2's. Good job Cobb, this thing looks sweet.

Lex 07-23-2013 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LumberJack (Post 2172441)
@Lex; I received some information from a pretty reliable source that deals with cobb heavily on the subaru side, was wondering if you can confirm this.


The release date was adjusted to tomorrow, but I was told that is for PRE ORDERS only and they still will not be shipping until Aug 1st.

Correct. Original release was Aug 1 but word got out. So pre-orders start tomorrow and they start shipping Aug 1.

mxlplx71 07-23-2013 12:51 AM

but I want now!!!!

skeeter149 07-23-2013 01:27 AM

Damn that looks awesome. Here's another hoping for a buyback deal

VulgarKyle 07-23-2013 05:25 AM

I'm in on the buyback also.

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Ziggo 07-23-2013 06:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Enki (Post 2172450)
I'm down to upgrade just for the faster flash. Rest is icing.

This. For those of us that pay for dyno time, paying for time while its flashing sucks. I usually go with several maps pre-prepared but I still spend more time flashing than testing. I am sure cobb's in house tuners will be able to work faster too.

Mike@Stratified 07-23-2013 06:23 AM

I haven't seen any specs on how much faster, but I'm hoping for at least half the current flash time.

2.0t03speed 07-23-2013 06:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike@Stratified (Post 2172604)
I haven't seen any specs on how much faster, but I'm hoping for at least half the current flash time.

according to the dealer training pdf it "can flash up to 44% faster"

Realgib3 07-23-2013 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmhinkle (Post 2171951)
Is that my old one? Didn't you buy my V1 when I got a V2? If so, I never realized it was number 13.

Yes it is! hahaha

Deldran 07-23-2013 07:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crtguns (Post 2172408)
I'd buy if it was wireless. fucking hate my cables.

Or you could just get a little bitty laptop and passthrough current AP

Meh personally i think that is a terrible idea.
I work in networking and wireless is not stable enough for me to want it to be writing data to my ECU, one bit gets mixed up or whatnot bricked ecu. There are ways you could make there that doesnt happen but i would imagine it would be slower reflashing than just plugging in and doing it that way. I like cables lol

CrawlingMS3 07-23-2013 07:16 AM

Damn, I love this v3. Time to sell my AP and upgrade...if only I had $200 extra bucks to cover the rest after I sold it... :banghead:

Lex 07-23-2013 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ziggo (Post 2172591)
This. For those of us that pay for dyno time, paying for time while its flashing sucks. I usually go with several maps pre-prepared but I still spend more time flashing than testing. I am sure cobb's in house tuners will be able to work faster too.

Flashing time and logging rates are also tied to the ecu itself. Even with v2b a gen2 flashes and logs at a higher rate than a gen1.

jk_ms3 07-23-2013 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2.0t03speed (Post 2172609)
according to the dealer training pdf it "can flash up to 44% faster"

This is something I'm interested in finding out. I had assumed that the 44% number was for Mazdas, but it's possible, since that was quoted from the dealer guidebook for all v3s, that we'll flash slower than, say, the Subaru. It's all speculation until someone with a stopwatch tests it out.

big angry bird 07-23-2013 08:01 AM

they should make a red face plate so that it matches my red cobb knob.

just a little sprinkle of rice :)

abiezerf 07-23-2013 08:07 AM

I'm subbing to this thread because I'd be extremely interested in a trade-in program.

Evan@COBB 07-23-2013 08:10 AM

Looks like RallySportDirect put up an initial review:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=rbSn25PTKjA

Also, please make sure you check out our Facebook page today at 3:00 for more details concerning prices, trade-ins programs, etc!

Oh, hey there good lookin!

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/07/23/qyju7u5u.jpg

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DVM17 07-23-2013 08:13 AM

:yumyum:

IamJamen 07-23-2013 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evan@COBB (Post 2172762)
Oh, hey there good lookin!

I appreciate the picture but would really love some insight into the trade-in program that you hinted at earlier.

RLam 07-23-2013 08:28 AM

:bukkake:

I'm in like trade in.

Next thing you know I'm re-tuning with Lex for BT, selling my house for money, ditching my GF for a stripper sugar momma, living in my speed. Jesus what am I getting myself into...

2.0t03speed 07-23-2013 08:36 AM

Just pre-ordered one of these through Cobb i can't wait to get it!!

maisonvi 07-23-2013 08:41 AM

"Sent from my COBB Accessport V3 using Tapatalk 2"

This would be sweet. I would buy one for sure. Haha

julienjj 07-23-2013 08:42 AM

For 250$ I can trade in.... for more, no way. mazda AP have a very high resale value here.

Evan@COBB 07-23-2013 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by julienjj (Post 2172832)
For 250$ I can trade in.... for more, no way. mazda AP have a very high resale value here.

As with any product, the used-market value will change when a newer iteration is released.

ABolewski 07-23-2013 09:20 AM

True, it'd be hard to beat just reselling here and getting a new AP, even with the convenience that trading in would offer.
Looks way sexy though Cobb can't wait to get my hands on one next year.

kaprikorn 07-23-2013 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by abiezerf (Post 2172750)
I'm subbing to this thread because I'd be extremely interested in a trade-in program.

me too :dance:

Atomic41 07-23-2013 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kaprikorn (Post 2172917)
me too :dance:

Same thing for me !!!

LumberJack 07-23-2013 09:47 AM

About to get my pre order on once more info is released on the fb page today regarding trade in program offer.

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blkspeed307 07-23-2013 09:47 AM

Just when I thought I was done upgrading things on my speed 3.
Oh well subbed for trade in program also.

ABloodBrother 07-23-2013 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evan@COBB (Post 2172762)
Looks like RallySportDirect put up an initial review:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=rbSn25PTKjA

Also, please make sure you check out our Facebook page today at 3:00 for more details concerning prices, trade-ins programs, etc!

Oh, hey there good lookin!

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/07/23/qyju7u5u.jpg

Sent from my COBB Accessport V3 using Tapatalk 2

Edit. Tried to post this in nator ct. Wtf???? Hhah


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