The AP V3.0

[Lex]

Maps etc should all be backwards compatible.

[[R]usty]

Originally Posted by Mistersix I'm planning on upgrading and thinking 300 for my old one when i post it FS. Just sayin.

I'm getting the new one. I already have an old one I will keep as a spare or sell.

[Haltech]

All i want to know is, will this have an included VTECH light for when our VVT hits?

[superskaterxes]

Originally Posted by Realgib3 I have the number 13 AP ever...and I've been hanging onto it as long as possible...but for this... for this, I may have to give it up. This V3 looks amazing.

i have 51!!!

[ibsir]

Price point?

Str8 Tapping

[Lex]

$650 retail.

[el_guapo]

Hopefully there is a buyback for this

[Lex]

I think the 2 versions have a different customer in mind. Some people want to flash and forget while others love to monitor constantly. For those that don't care for looking or installing this in their car, the V2 and the V3 can coexist for different customers with different needs/wants.

[Ziggo]

I think there will be a buyback cause it makes sense for them. I bet thier incremental cost for these is low compared to the cost they sink in to developing the software and cracking the ECUs. For every used one that sells, they lose $$ compared to someone buying a new one, since the real value is in the license, not the hardware.

Simpler, if they sell you a $650 one with their incremental cost of $200, they make $450 today, but lost $450 tomorrow cause someone bought yours used instead of buying new.

If they sell you a $200 V3 if you trade in your V2, they make no money today, but make $450 tomorrow cause that someone bought new because used wasn't available.

If they sell you a $300 V3 if you trade in your V2, they make $100 today and $450 tomorrow.

It's a sliding scale, at $450 credit, everyone upgrading probably trades in. At $250 credit to upgrade, nobody does, electing instead to resale. Obviously they are better off with a buyback at some credit, over $250 per AP.

And let's face it, they have the mazda market pretty well cornered everyone needs tuned, and you can still be tuned with a V2. Every used AP that hits the used market is a new sale that doesn't happen cause there is not really a competing solution in terms of marketshare.

Zigatapatalka

[Vader]

Wow, a nice looking soluion. Good for the gen 2 guys to finally have a monitoring solution.

I'll save my pennies though, and keep my DH. Because, Gen Winning.




trololol.

[breakfstincluded]

I'd love to know if it can display the 6 parameters horizontal

[jmhinkle]

Originally Posted by Realgib3 I have the number 13 AP ever...and I've been hanging onto it as long as possible...but for this... for this, I may have to give it up. This V3 looks amazing.

Is that my old one? Didn't you buy my V1 when I got a V2? If so, I never realized it was number 13.

[m4tic]

what the fuck is this... i just bought a dashhawk... lol

i hope they include landscape funtionality

I can hear the AP v2 price drops

[For Sale]
Dashawk
AP

[msantana101]

Damn this revamp looks awesome. Thanks for the info Lex.


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[Lex]

Also COBB will be offering an utility to transition from one serial number to another from what they've presented.

[sl33py24]

I have 250 for used v2 lol

[Evan@COBB]

@Ziggo; is a smart dude. Y'all should listen to him more often. Just saying....

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[breakfstincluded]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbSn25PTKjA

Rallysport Direct has a nice unboxing

Darn, would've been nice to seee if paramters can be oriented horizontally

[jk_ms3]

Originally Posted by Evan@COBB @Ziggo; is a smart dude. Y'all should listen to him more often. Just saying.... Sent from my COBB AccessPORT V3 using Tapatalk 2

If you did something like a $450 credit, I'd highly consider it, especially if you couple that with a group buy price. In fact, I'd probably be in. And I just spent time in a different post stating why I didn't think most people needed this upgrade.

Come on, Evan. Win me over!

[Chev954]

Came up.

+1 for @breakfstincluded; for beating my Youtube reference but no embedz sooooo I retract my point sir.

COBB Tuning AccessPORT V3 Review - Whats In the Box? - YouTube

COBB Tuning AccessPORT V3 Review - Whats In the Box? - YouTube

[crtguns]

I'd buy if it was wireless. fucking hate my cables.

Or you could just get a little bitty laptop and passthrough current AP

[Dmurray06]

Jesus...no ones ever happy.

[LumberJack]

Pure sex, love the screens and some very much needed improvements and functions especially for gen2 owners. I will buy if they have a trade in program.

[Lex]

Originally Posted by Ziggo I think there will be a buyback cause it makes sense for them. I bet thier incremental cost for these is low compared to the cost they sink in to developing the software and cracking the ECUs. For every used one that sells, they lose $$ compared to someone buying a new one, since the real value is in the license, not the hardware. Simpler, if they sell you a $650 one with their incremental cost of $200, they make $450 today, but lost $450 tomorrow cause someone bought yours used instead of buying new. If they sell you a $200 V3 if you trade in your V2, they make no money today, but make $450 tomorrow cause that someone bought new because used wasn't available. If they sell you a $300 V3 if you trade in your V2, they make $100 today and $450 tomorrow. It's a sliding scale, at $450 credit, everyone upgrading probably trades in. At $250 credit to upgrade, nobody does, electing instead to resale. Obviously they are better off with a buyback at some credit, over $250 per AP. And let's face it, they have the mazda market pretty well cornered everyone needs tuned, and you can still be tuned with a V2. Every used AP that hits the used market is a new sale that doesn't happen cause there is not really a competing solution in terms of marketshare. Zigatapatalka

Ziggo is absolutely correct.

The "used" marketplace is an issue for any company and product when the product does not lose value quickly due to either wear/tear or functionality. Electronics rarely suffer from physical wear and tear and vehicle ECU pass-through flashing retains the same protocols over many years.

Imagine where the computer market would be without software that always "pushes" the need for higher hardware requirements.

However while the main functionality of the AP remains the same in terms of flashing, the added display functionality is worth a certain price. Without removing used/old APs from the marketplace their price will drop to the point that they will still exchange hands.

[jmhinkle]

I just don't see them offering a trade in program. Maybe a lower price point on the V2 to compete with the used market better is all. New one is nice, but I'll be sticking with my DashHawk and V2 for awhile I guess.

[LumberJack]

@Lex; I received some information from a pretty reliable source that deals with cobb heavily on the subaru side, was wondering if you can confirm this.


The release date was adjusted to tomorrow, but I was told that is for PRE ORDERS only and they still will not be shipping until Aug 1st.

[breakfstincluded]

If I had the V3 I definitly wouldn't leave it mounted when I leave the car. Some Stanced Subaru meth addict will probably see it try to make some money, or not realize we don't have the same ECU.

Opposed to my somewhat ancient looking DH that I just leave there 24/7 and people think it has the same display as indiglo watches.

[jk_ms3]

Originally Posted by breakfstincluded If I had the V3 I definitly wouldn't leave it mounted when I leave the car. Some Stanced Subaru meth addict will probably see it try to make some money, or not realize we don't have the same ECU. Opposed to my somewhat ancient looking DH that I just leave there 24/7 and people think it has the same display as indigo watches.

My wife's car was broken into because some meth head thought that the remote to her car stereo was an MP3 player. They'd probably think that the new ap was a fancy phone or something, and when they realized that it wasn't, it'd probably just get tossed in the trash.

Then again, I live in the ghetto.

[weakdog85]

i'm definitely in on group buy and trade in program. this looks amazing.

[DTKII]

If everything said is true including the buy back, I will buy this sum bitch as soon as its released. Especially if the rumor about changing launch control and ffs on the fly is true... Fuck you Cobb fuck you..


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[Enki]

I'm down to upgrade just for the faster flash. Rest is icing.

[jakk]

Once these get out more, it would be cool if someone could confirm if they will work with a splitter in tandem with an Aeroforce Interceptor. I know that people said an OBDII splitter did not work with the v2 and interceptor. I would really like to be able to have multiple parameters monitored with a min/max value which is a feature the interceptor does not have. Of course, I would have a hard time spending the extra money unless some sort of rebate was offered on the v2's. Good job Cobb, this thing looks sweet.

[Lex]

Originally Posted by LumberJack @Lex; I received some information from a pretty reliable source that deals with cobb heavily on the subaru side, was wondering if you can confirm this. The release date was adjusted to tomorrow, but I was told that is for PRE ORDERS only and they still will not be shipping until Aug 1st.

Correct. Original release was Aug 1 but word got out. So pre-orders start tomorrow and they start shipping Aug 1.

[mxlplx71]

but I want now!!!!

[skeeter149]

Damn that looks awesome. Here's another hoping for a buyback deal

[VulgarKyle]

I'm in on the buyback also.

tapatalk isn't texting so tapatalk isn't illegal

[Ziggo]

Originally Posted by Enki I'm down to upgrade just for the faster flash. Rest is icing.

This. For those of us that pay for dyno time, paying for time while its flashing sucks. I usually go with several maps pre-prepared but I still spend more time flashing than testing. I am sure cobb's in house tuners will be able to work faster too.

[Mike@Stratified]

I haven't seen any specs on how much faster, but I'm hoping for at least half the current flash time.

[2.0t03speed]

Originally Posted by Mike@Stratified I haven't seen any specs on how much faster, but I'm hoping for at least half the current flash time.

according to the dealer training pdf it "can flash up to 44% faster"

[Realgib3]

Originally Posted by jmhinkle Is that my old one? Didn't you buy my V1 when I got a V2? If so, I never realized it was number 13.

Yes it is! hahaha