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Just not taking advantage of the added octane tune wise.....I'm not even sure e85 is readily available in my area. Thanks again bro, all is appreciated |
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I really gotta say this ots+ map is damn smooth. My ltft's have stabilized to +\-4 from +\- 13. Did you guys increase the idle as well? With my ots Cobb stage2 93 my idle rpms when warm were barely over 600. With the a/c on (here in FL) operating temp idle is around 1000, up from about 800. I like this map a lot, look to hear from me for a full tune b4 the 3 months r up. |
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There are a good number of S-OTS+ maps out there now and I'd love to hear how you guys like these. If you want to put a review up on our site, I will send you a Stratified decal in the colour of your choice. Just PM me your order number for the S-OTS+ such that I have your address. Login : Stratified Automotive Controls Stratified 5.3x1.5 Vinyl Decals [STRATIFIED_5.3x1.5_DECAL] - $5.00CAD : Stratified Automotive Controls |
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I will be posting a review of that process soon. Double tappin' the Moto |
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How much of a difference is there going from the sots+ map to the full etune? If you think you get around 75% the feel of what an etune would give you, il be buying of these asap! Thx in advance |
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The main difference between the S-OTS and my full tune, is that the full tune found the limits of boost and timing that my car was good with across the entire power band and optimized those limits. It also allowed me to make decisions about how much margin I wanted to those limits. I also learned a ton about my car in taking all the logs, and asking questions of my tuner. So my car "feels" a lot like it did on the S-OTS map, it just pulls a LOT harder at WOT due to optimizing boost, fueling, and timing. |
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The full tune takes it one step further by fully optimizing the performance across the entire power band for your particular car. |
Putting my review now =] |
Got my sticker yesterday. Thanks guys!! |
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Just got my sticker as well. There are no stickers on my car (I hate rice). This is going to be my only sticker, it's going on the passenger side for display when passing :) Double tappin' the Moto |
Did I have to buy the shtickers or do you send to all? |
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http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/25/9a4ypeje.jpg Detailed the car today and topped it off with my cars first sticker. It's not rice because Canada, right. :) Double tappin' the Moto |
Looks excellent! |
So I have been rocking the OTS+ tune for a few weeks now and I have to say that I love it - best mod to date no question. I was hoping to get a few logs for you guys but life has not at all cooperated. My overall impression is that the car is much smoother - almost like shifting has been tuned which I know isn't possible but that is sort of what it feels like. Way more livable on a daily basis and yet when you want the power, jam the gas and watch the horizon blur. Anyone on the fence should just buy this tune now. |
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Very glad to hear you're enjoying it. With regards to shifting there are improvements to smoothness in the tune itself when throttle and clutch events happen. |
I have had the s-ots stage 2 for a few days now. I am extremely happy with it, way better then the cobb stage 2. I have told a few people about the tune and took them for a ride and they love it. My brother and a few mn nator guys will be buying this tune very soon. Thanks Lex and everyone else at Stratified |
I finally got my cpe intercooler, once installed I will log the difference between the stage 2 ots and stratified stage 2 ots+ tunes. That and I'll give my review as well. Can't wait. tapatalk, it sucks for free. |
Awesome stuff here!! Just waiting for some parts to arrive and be installed then will be hitting you up for one a Stage 2 S-OTS Plus tune!! also @Lex just want to clarify something...I'm located in Australia and run 98 RON so is that the equivalent to 93 over there in the States/Canada?? |
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The 93 will work well in this case. |
5 Attachment(s) so im a fucking idiot and posted my thanks to stratified in the wrong thread. anyway thank you stratified for the awesome cust serv. i got my map a few hours after submitting the form. totally felt like a different car. ive attached 2 logs from the cobb ots database both are stage 1 cs int+tip on 91n oct. and 3 S-OTS+ logs taken recently. the map has helped unlock a lot more power and i will absolutely be purchasing a tune once my TBE and FMIC are installed. Thanks again Stratified!!! |
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6 Attachment(s) Here are the logs and V Dyno I took today to highlight the difference between the OTS2 and the SOTS+ tune. I don't have enough time in the seat with the SOTS+ tune to add anything more, yet. I will definitely be adding more after a week of driving on it so stay tuned for more to come. |
We've had a good number of customers that are looking for a very quick turn around tune where they have parts ready to go in. I am pushing to have these S-OTS+ tunes done for people on the same day (if on a business day) to facilitate these needs. Just make sure to get the order in before the weekend if you plan on a weekend install. |
Made my purchase yesterday at 10:45am and had the map at 12:02pm, 1 hr. 15 mins later talk about some amazing turn around time. Big thanks to @Lex; and the Stratified team. Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk |
Same here. Got the map within an hour. Thx again |
It took a few days for mine only because I got it on the weekend but once I got the email it too 45 mins. Stratified has an awesome team can't wait to get a full tune. |
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Fantastic customer service. Very smooth, unmatched power delivery. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
I've got several thousand miles on the stage 2 S-OTS+ tune. I'm loving it! It's corrected all of the funny throttle response with a smooth, progressive return on input, and low-speed smoothness is fantastic! Powerband is a nice swell throughout without any strange peaks, with solid overall power delivery. Great stuff!! |
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Yep got it!! Actually thought it'd take a bit longer haha so cheers for that. Will get the HPFP and test pipe installed this weekend hopefully and flash the new tune. Will report back and write a review next week. Much appreciated [emoji1] Tapatorque steering |
I love my Stratified OTS+ map, puts the COBB OTS garbage map I was using to shame. Once I get my internals, test pipe and a few other goodies I'm defiantly having Stratified do my custom tune. Thanks again! |
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Running an s-ots tune at the moment (htp/sots GB) and really enjoying the car. Just a quick question, am showing high negative ltft (-10 to -16) up until 50-60g/s. Then it tapers down to -4 before entering open loop. Is this likely due to the fact it's really friggin cold out? It holds boost fine, as AFR's are spot on.. It is pretty much between 0-10C (32-50F) all day at the moment (winter) Edit: actually, it's probably more that I'm 2000ft up :( |
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You might have a slight leak between the turbo and motor - in the charge piping. Have you done a boost leak test recently? |
I should also add. I have been seeing some variability with the HTP intakes lately. Things like how far the air filter is pushed on the intake can have big effects in the low regions of the MAF curve where air velocity and volume as low. |
@lex I have purchased an s-ots+ map from you guys and I am now changing a few things up. I was wondering does the ots+ option include calibrating the maf curve of a 3.5" htp intake and tip? I plan on purchasing a full tune from you guys soon but I'm waiting on a few parts prior to pulling the trigger. I just wanted to know if I should wait for everything and do the full tune or go ahead and buy another sots+ to get the intake in before the other parts get ordered/arrive. It will be awhile before I get time to drop the full exhaust in so I'd like something in the mean time and I'm not super familiar with atr and changing things up. |
That whas hard to understand but do you have the 3.5 intake now? But yeah the ots+ will be calibrated for the larger maf. Then within 3 months you can purchase a full tune for - the price of ots+ So get ots+ for your intake, install intake. Then install all your parts within 3 months and save 40$ on your new full tune Sent by smoke signal |
Sorry for being confusing. I have the intake but have not installed it due to being wary of messing around with the calibrations. I already have an ots+ but not for this intake. I also have a full tbe on order but it will be some time before it arrives. I want to use the new intake before the exhaust arrives. Hence ordering another sots+ map for the new intake then upgrading to a full tune once the exhaust is in. I just wanted to know if the ots+ maps would calibrate the maf or if I would still need to do this on my own. The website states they will not evaluate logs so I'm confused if the calibration will be off at all with any ots map. Does that clarify? |
Either you get all your parts on within the 3 months from ots+ purchase and get discount on full tune Or just install intake and get another ots+ with your current mods (3.5 intake) and then you have 3 months to put your exhaust and shit and get your new full tune for a discount Have fun |
We do build the maps for your modifications and that includes the MAF calibration. We have developed calibrations for pretty much any intake out there. That being said big intake cars really do benefit from a full tune to exploit all the gains from a big intake - especially a 3.5". So we can certainly get you another sots+ or we can get started on a full tune. This depends on your schedule as well. There is a two week grace period in the tune if you want to have a break while installing more parts. Send me a PM if you like and we can discuss the best route to take for your situation. |
Thanks guys! Im super new to tuning and im learning alot you guys have all been so helpful. Ill conta t you later lex when im not at work. |
Are these maps set to 900 @ idle? |
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Indeed the idle setting is 850 which is a nice compromise for comfort as well as preventing turbo smoke. |
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So i got 1 of these the other day and im really satisfied. I jave a feeling that the answer is yes, but is there a world of a difference from a s+ots map, to a custome tune? The only thing holding me back is purchasing a downpipe or testpipe |
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My favorite part is that instead of assuming my car is safe, I know it's safe. Since I was involved in finding my cars limits and I made the decisions about how much margin I wanted to those limits, I feel completely comfortable pushing my car as hard as I want whenever I want. I now have a confidence in the car that I didn't have with ots maps or even when the car was bone stock, as the factory tune caused some questionable behavior in my opinion. |
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I got my OTS tune today and all I can say is WOW. What a difference between the Cobb OTS map I was running. My car runs smooth as silk, pulls hard and actually gets better mileage. I ran through a half tank today and got an average of 2mpg better, even with getting on the car a lot. After I decide on an exhaust and IC setup, I will be contacting you for a custom full tune. Thanks Lex, best $40 my car has seen (except for the donation to the forum..lol) Anyone limping by on the Cobb OTS maps, really needs to get a hold of Lex. You won't be sorry. |
There are a lot of happy campers MazdaSpeed owners running our SOTS+ maps. We now include the SOTS+ tune of your choice (pump or E85) with every AP purchase for just the price of the AP: MazdaSpeed 3/6 COBB AP With S-OTS+ [MS_AP_Package_2] : Stratified Automotive Controls |
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I'm still loving the S-OTS+ tune, 6500mi later! Thanks again, Lex! |
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Hey Lex, what are the pros and cons of doing a full tune in dead of summer? Here in the U.S.A.'s penis state (floriduh) I am regularly seeing temps in the high 90's. The hotter it is usually means less O2 volume. If tuned for hotter temps,when it gets cooler O2 volume goes up which mean leaner mix, will the ecu compensate properly? I guess what I'm asking is, would it be better to have a summer tune AND a winter tune? Or would the single tune be safe and effective? Thanks in advance, your friendly neighborhood shit thrower |
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Purchased, received, and flashed the S-OTS+ Stage 2 on 91 today. Like everyone else has mentioned it's an amazing change for $40. I haven't had a chance to drive it around that much but did notice the following: -Extremely smooth power delivery, all the way to redline -Throttle response is smoother, not as 'jerky' as before -Shifting feels much smoother, not as 'jerky' (due to the throttle response I'm sure) Overall drivability has improved quite a bit. I was using the free Stratified S-OTS Stage 2 map before and thought that was pretty awesome already but for the price, the OTS+ is a no brainer and was worth every penny and then some. :You_Rock_Emoticon: |
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If fuel octane is very high (E85) targeting boost allows you to have more power in the winter when temperatures drop and gives you the knock resistance in the summer due to the fuel. Having been doing this through the seasons for several years I know what to expect from the car year-round regardless of when we actually tune. In cold climates it gets unsafe to log when there is snow on the ground but otherwise it is really up to you when you'd like to do the tune. |
I got one of the sots+ maps for my setup with the catted DP, but was not able to stop the car from over boosting with it. I ended up having to go full tune and car runs great now. |
OTS S+ Map -- huge improvement in power delivery Another Stratified OTS S+ success. My 2008 MS3, running a COBB stage 2 map, was driving me batty, on the serpentine back roads in my area...the abrupt power delivery made for no-fun driving. My attempts to tune the COBB map did not provide enough improvement. The OTS S+ map improves the power delivery by a remarkable amount...it now drives smooth, with no schizophrenic boost building. I figure that Stratified saved me a bunch of money, since I now don't feel the need to shop for a new car. A full custom etune is in my future. Thanks, Stratified...you made a believer out of me. |
I agree. The combo of Stratified S-OTS map and the JBR Power Path Stage 2 is an addictive bolt-on mod for the car and literally breathes new life into a nearly 7 year old car! |
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Finally installed some parts i had sitting around and flashed my s-ots plus tune. As many others have said before, this blows the cobb ots tunes out of the water. Response, smoothness in both part throttle cruising/shifting and flooring the gas pedal is amazing. Am slowly acquiring parts for my bt build but will be more than happy running this for a while :) Tapatorque steering |
Just got a AP and flashed the S-OTS stage 1. Huge improvement! Thanks for providing a great alternative to the standard OTS maps. Now I just need some internals and a racepipe for stage 2 |
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Happy you're enjoying the tune and the stg1 will keep you safe until those internals are installed even during the cold winter months. |
Through the hundreds of S-OTS+ and S-OTS+ E85 tunes out there as well as custom tuning we have gathered massive amounts of both technical information as well as customer feedback. This has enabled us to update our S-OTS+ and S-OTS+ E85 calibrations to Version 2.0. All orders starting with yesterday (Oct 15, 2014) will receive the updated maps. This update includes improvements to performance as well as driveability across the board but especially in the Stage2 and E85 tunes (where a high pressure fuel pump upgrade is needed). All of our new S-OTS+and S-OTS+ E85 customers will enjoy the 2.0 tunes. All of our AccessPorts also include the S-OTS+ 2.0 To support our loyal customers who already have an S-OTS+ tune we have created the S-OTS+Upgrade. This gives you the opportunity to upgrade to the latest S-OTS+ version but also enables you to update your map based on your modifications or changes in fuel octane at a fraction of the price. S-OTS+Upgrade For example, if you were a stage 1 and now are a stage 2 you can update your S-OTS+tune to match these modifications. This also applies to going from 91 to 93 octane and vice versa. Here are the changes going from S-OTS+ V1.x to V2.0 - Power output was increased for all our Stage 2 tunes. - Power output was increased for all our E85 tunes. - We now enable launch control and flat foot shift at your request. - Shift logic was improved to reduce exhaust popping especially when using a 50/50 BOV. - E85 tunes have both increases in power and spool/response. - Stratified tunes are extensively tested to always deliver exceptional performance, reliability, and driveability in all conditions. |
1 Attachment(s) SOTS+ stg2 (the V1.00 version) on the dyno. 273/330. |
@Lex; finally decided to flash the Current Flash Tune Version 2.0 order #2077 . I noticed that in first gear, I nearly stalled as soon as a tiny bit of boost started to kick in. In second gear I tried giving gas without going completely to WOT and got a good bit of stutter and almost felt hollow. Meanwhile, I noticed that AFRs were dropping into the 8's/9's. Mods are listed in signature. I reflashed the Stage II OTS map you guys have for 91 octane and everything is back to running smooth as it was before. There was some mix-up on the intake size when I first ordered but I thought we were able to work it out. I plan on eventually getting a real e-tune, but I have to run that one by the wife before I drop the extra money on the daily kid transporter. |
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We have added a few features to our flash tunes to make them an even fuller experience: http://www.stratifiedauto.com/index....ex&cPath=87_88 - SWAS removal if desired. This is included with every tune or tune update - Compatability Check / Log Reivew. For those of you who would prefer to have an experts eyes watching over their vehicles performance we have added the option to have a Compatability Check / Log Reivew. If you are in an area with exceptionally bad fuel, high altitude, extreme temperatures, or would like to be certain your vehicle is performing flawlessly then this option is for you. After you receive your Flash Tune you will drive for 40-60 miles in order to allow the learning parameters to settle and send us a WOT log following our list of logging parameters. A qualified Stratified Tuner will listen to your feedback and review your logs looking for any compatability issues which could affect the safety and driveability of your tune. The tuner will use the feedback and information you provide to make appropriate changes to your tune or make suggestions on how to correct the issue (swapping parts, repairing leaks, changing fuel). |
Ordered my S-OTS, 2 weeks ago(stage2 93oct), awesome!! the car definitely pulls stronger, and feels so much smoother! thanks @Lex; and stratified!! |
Ordered my tune last night, im curious how much power i will gain over the jbr stage 2 stat tune. |
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3 Attachment(s) Ordered a tune and the car drives and reacts great but i'm curious about power results and decided to throw 2 logs into vdyno. Horse power and torque seems a little low but the car feels more powerful. |
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Down low, the boost is kept low to target a consistent torque regardless of temperature. This is due to the load targeting nature of the tune. In cold weather the turbo efficiency increases and less boost is needed to achieve the same torque. Have a look at this article for more info on load versus boost targeting: Blog : Load Based Versus Boost Based Tuning : Stratified Automotive Controls As for the Vdyno power, it's hard for me to comment simply because there are many variables that come into play when taking the logs and setting up Vdyno. If you want to compare to the OE tune, then make sure you take the logs on the same road, same temperatures and with the same car weight. Here's a dynojet of a stg2 91 flash tune car. http://www.stratifiedauto.com/images...091%20dyno.jpg |
Just flashed my retune yesterday after adding a corksport 3" intake and tmic. Gotta say its nice not having to deal with a maf cal. Just load the tune and drive. All my parameters look great. Car runs great and the intake sounds great coupled with a corksport bpv. Plenty of ricer woosh for me! Thanks again to everyone at Stratified. Next time its gonna be a full tune. sent from the Tardis |
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I wanted to ask if you guys still provide the your OTS maps with the purchase of a V3 through you guys. If so is it an open ended deal? |
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Yes we do. After you purchase the AP we send you the tuning form for the flash tune. |
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This is how I got my Accesport and Flash Tune. I think it's a pretty good deal. The Flash Tune is a marked improvement over the stock tune. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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Stage 1? Just curious what you are running. |
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