Stratified S-OTS maps for the JBR Power Path Intakes

[Lex]

Originally Posted by speedaholic Here are my first three, 4th gear pulls with the S-OTS 91 stage 1 map. This is on a "false flat" stretch of road. Two pulls on the incline (NW), one down (SE). They all look good to me but any input is appreciated. - Ambient temp: -2°F - Wind: NW/6mph - Atm. Pressure: 101.6kpa - Rel. Humidity: 53% I now know my tach is off by 250rpm as the log shows I started the pulls at 2.7/2.8k to end at 6.2/6.3k instead of 3k to redline. From now on I’ll rely on the AP’s tach. I'm getting internals, a test pipe and an upgraded top mount in a couple of months so I’m eager to get tuned by Stratified! @Lex;

Everything in the logs looks just fine. The fact that you're logging at 3 degrees F is crazy! Haven't seen many logs at these temperatures.

[speedaholic]

Originally Posted by Lex Everything in the logs looks just fine. The fact that you're logging at 3 degrees F is crazy! Haven't seen many logs at these temperatures.

Great! I supposed that if the fuel pump kept up and there's no knock all is good?

With the Cobb CS 91 v231 map I got plenty over 1° so I lightened my foot substantially, but with yours...

[novice_01]

Hi, i'm planning on installing jbr sri+tip and jbr egr delete plate this saturday. I was wondering if you made any changes to s-ots map regarding egr delete dtc. I downloaded v 1.10 i believe. Thanks

[Lex]

Originally Posted by novice_01 Hi, i'm planning on installing jbr sri+tip and jbr egr delete plate this saturday. I was wondering if you made any changes to s-ots map regarding egr delete dtc. I downloaded v 1.10 i believe. Thanks

PM sent.

[aromig]

Originally Posted by novice_01 Hi, i'm planning on installing jbr sri+tip and jbr egr delete plate this saturday. I was wondering if you made any changes to s-ots map regarding egr delete dtc. I downloaded v 1.10 i believe. Thanks

Curious about this too, as this is a very common mod and one I am wanting to do before I rack up too many miles. BTW, your maps rock. They definitely illustrate how badly the Cobb ots maps blow.

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[jtday]

I've been running the JBR stage 2 and S-OTS stage 1 map for about a month now and have REALLY enjoyed the results. I've done a few logs here and there to make sure everything was ok, and while I seem to be running a bit lean, everything else looks great.

So today I decided to log a 2nd to 3rd gear pull. I know this isn't how it works but I wanted to do it anyways just to take a look at a different scenario.

Well, my AFR's are totally fucked up, fuel pressure dips to dangerous levels, and my timing just looks odd. I've been reading logs here and there to figure out what I should be looking for but all of these things combined are just beyond my scope of knowledge.

Internals are now on the list but I'm not convinced that's the problem here. Maybe spill or relief valve issue?

So with that, I've attached the log.

Yellow - AFR
Orange - Boost
Blue - HPFP
Red - KR
Green - Spark Advance
@Lex; I'd love for some input. I was hoping to stay away from a custom tune for a little while but I'd happily spend the coin as a preventative measure.

Thanks,
Josh

[Lex]

Originally Posted by jtday I've been running the JBR stage 2 and S-OTS stage 1 map for about a month now and have REALLY enjoyed the results. I've done a few logs here and there to make sure everything was ok, and while I seem to be running a bit lean, everything else looks great. So today I decided to log a 2nd to 3rd gear pull. I know this isn't how it works but I wanted to do it anyways just to take a look at a different scenario. Well, my AFR's are totally fucked up, fuel pressure dips to dangerous levels then hangs at 1800+ after I let off throttle, and my timing just looks odd. I've been reading logs here and there to figure out what I should be looking for but all of these things combined are just beyond my scope of knowledge. Internals are now on the list but I'm not convinced that's the problem here. Maybe spill or relief valve issue? So with that, I've attached the log. Yellow - AFR Orange - Boost Blue - HPFP Red - KR Green - Spark Advance @Lex; I'd love for some input. I was hoping to stay away from a custom tune for a little while but I'd happily spend the coin as a preventative measure. Thanks, Josh

Hi Josh, the rich AFRs and high boost point to a possible leak in the system or an incorrect MAF reading.

I would check a few things:

1. There are no leaks in your intake system. Do this using a pressurized source right where the filter connects:

2. Check that your MAF sensor is seated correctly and the o-ring is not damaged.

3. Check that the air straightener in the intake is not in any way damaged or loose.

[carfreakMS3]

I installed the s-ots stage 1 91 octane tune today ran AMAZING saw zero knock in the 4-5 pulls i did. Only down side was my afr was in the 12.3 range wot and boost was peaking 19+. fuel pressure was in the 1700 range wot on the stock internals. I feel the afr is a little on the lean side would you rec. I reinstall the cobb ots until I can get e-tuned?

[iammike]

Originally Posted by carfreakMS3 I installed the s-ots stage 1 91 octane tune today ran AMAZING saw zero knock in the 4-5 pulls i did. Only down side was my afr was in the 12.3 range wot and boost was peaking 19+. fuel pressure was in the 1700 range wot on the stock internals. I feel the afr is a little on the lean side would you rec. I reinstall the cobb ots until I can get e-tuned?

I would recommend you get upgraded internals IMHO.

[Agent_Orange]

Originally Posted by carfreakMS3 I installed the s-ots stage 1 91 octane tune today ran AMAZING saw zero knock in the 4-5 pulls i did. Only down side was my afr was in the 12.3 range wot and boost was peaking 19+. fuel pressure was in the 1700 range wot on the stock internals. I feel the afr is a little on the lean side would you rec. I reinstall the cobb ots until I can get e-tuned?

The S-OTS maps are calibrated for the JBR PP intakes.

The Cobb intake is slightly larger in diameter, hence your lean condition.

[carfreakMS3]

damn it lol i really love the way it feels cause the cobb ots maps blow major ass nobody likes 10.2 afs wot

[theurgy]

Then pay @Lex; the cash and get yourself a custom e-tune.
WELL worth the money, trust me!

[untitledav]

Hello,
I recently installed JBR SRI+TIP and flashed ecu with stage 1 S-OTS 93 map. im total noob to tuning, but learning fast on this forums.
Today i finally was able to do some logging at wot in 3rd gear. Also i noticed today 1.03KR, that was not on wot i read here that anything below 2.0 is acceptable? Let me know.
Please take a look at my logs and see if everything is happy as far as parameters.


Much appreciated

[jtday]

Originally Posted by untitledav Hello, I recently installed JBR SRI+TIP and flashed ecu with stage 1 S-OTS 93 map. im total noob to tuning, but learning fast on this forums. Today i finally was able to do some logging at wot in 3rd gear. Also i noticed today 1.03KR, that was not on wot i read here that anything below 2.0 is acceptable? Let me know. Please take a look at my logs and see if everything is happy as far as parameters. Much appreciated

You need to add accelerator position to your logs. You dont seem to be hitting boost targets. Lex will chime in eventually and give you some better insight.

[TheDukeZip]

Thanks for the S-OTS maps! I've been running the maps for a week and a half with the JBR stage 2 intake and have been super impressed - it feels like a new car.

I finally got a chance to do some 4th gear pulls tonight. Started a little late on pull #2 and didn't get to redline on either - some improvements I need to make for myself for next time.

Mods are autotech internals, JBR stage 2 intake, JBR boost toobs & bypass valve hose, CPE stage 2 RMM, and Corksport race pipe. I'm running the S-OTS stage 2 93 octane.

My weight is 235 lbs. and I'm running my winter setup right now of 205/60R-16. Outside temp was 34 F. So I think I did VDyno right but for anyone looking here for future reference they can take a look at my logs.

I was hoping this map would hold me over until spring/summer when I get a FMIC and meth setup and do a custom tune - but I have a feeling there is room for some gains and will be itching to take advantage of them sooner

[untitledav]

Originally Posted by jtday You need to add accelerator position to your logs. You dont seem to be hitting boost targets. Lex will chime in eventually and give you some better insight.

I do have Acc Pedal log its 74 on wot

[Lex]

Glad to hear everyone is enjoying the driveability and feel of the S-OTS maps. Worked a long time on that particular aspect. They are not meant to maximize power since they are on the safe side so they can be enjoyed by everyone. The custom tune is where we turn things to 11 ... a safe 11 .

[timmcc02]

I'm ready to turn things to 12

[darthxar]

So much good feed back on these. I might have to break down and try one even though I will get an CEL from my EGR delete. I have been thinking of doing a Stratified tune once I'm done modding.

May be worth the CEL for a while to "try out" the Stratified Tuning style.

[Lex]

Originally Posted by darthxar So much good feed back on these. I might have to break down and try one even though I will get an CEL from my EGR delete. I have been thinking of doing a Stratified tune once I'm done modding. May be worth the CEL for a while to "try out" the Stratified Tuning style.

Absolutely - give it a shot.

I am working on what will hopefully be a solution for these CELs but it won't hurt the car to run with the CEL currently.

[aromig]

Originally Posted by Lex Glad to hear everyone is enjoying the driveability and feel of the S-OTS maps. Worked a long time on that particular aspect. They are not meant to maximize power since they are on the safe side so they can be enjoyed by everyone. The custom tune is where we turn things to 11 ... a safe 11 .

Once I get a few more parts bolted on, a custom tune is definitely in the cards for me.

Sent from my Nexus 7 running Pac ROM nightlies

[DocBrown]

Hey guys, first I want to say thanks to Stratified and JBR for providing the free map files.

I recently installed a JBR stage 2 PP intake and loaded the stage 1 93 octane map and DAMN it made a huge difference. My car drives like it has a purpose in life now. My other mods are RMM and forged short block internals (ZZB recovery). Side note, I'm 2500mi into my engine break in and running Rotella.

Also, I am a noob at tuning/logging but I'm learning...

I drove it for a couple weeks and just recently logged it and found that I had some KR. I researched and found that this is fairly common due to questionable actual octane in the 93 rated stuff here in FL so I loaded the 91 oct map. I went out on a run and logged the stage 1 91 oct, 93 oct, and stage 0 maps so I could do a side by side comparison. Conditions were 75F outside, near sea level, and I waited a good 10 mins at highway speeds between runs to try to let the engine cool off. All logs are WOT in 4th gear.

I noticed that I'm still getting KR on the 91 oct map and there's nothing in the logs that's jumping out to my noob eyes. I was wondering if you guys would mind taking a look at my logs and seeing if you can shed some light.

Much thanks

[DocBrown]

Accidentally loaded the jank CSV for the stage 0, here's the excel

[DocBrown]

Also, my fuel economy dropped from about 24mpg at stage 0 to about 19mpg on the 93 oct map, so far the 91 doesn't seem much better. That seems very uncharacteristic of what I've heard with these maps, something must be up

[Lex]

Originally Posted by DocBrown Hey guys, first I want to say thanks to Stratified and JBR for providing the free map files. I recently installed a JBR stage 2 PP intake and loaded the stage 1 93 octane map and DAMN it made a huge difference. My car drives like it has a purpose in life now. My other mods are RMM and forged short block internals (ZZB recovery). Side note, I'm 2500mi into my engine break in and running Rotella. Also, I am a noob at tuning/logging but I'm learning... I drove it for a couple weeks and just recently logged it and found that I had some KR. I researched and found that this is fairly common due to questionable actual octane in the 93 rated stuff here in FL so I loaded the 91 oct map. I went out on a run and logged the stage 1 91 oct, 93 oct, and stage 0 maps so I could do a side by side comparison. Conditions were 75F outside, near sea level, and I waited a good 10 mins at highway speeds between runs to try to let the engine cool off. All logs are WOT in 4th gear. I noticed that I'm still getting KR on the 91 oct map and there's nothing in the logs that's jumping out to my noob eyes. I was wondering if you guys would mind taking a look at my logs and seeing if you can shed some light. Much thanks

You're actually not getting any knock in the 93 oct tune runs.

The little bit you see at the end of Run1 is simply the engine making noise as you let off the throttle.

So you can definitely safely run the stg1 93 map while you still have the OEM HPFP.

As for the fuel economy - I do notice some LTFT trims that are a little high in the low load regions. Make sure that you have no intake leaks by pressurizing the intake from the filter side and listening for them.

[Chief_Wiggum]

Originally Posted by DocBrown Also, my fuel economy dropped from about 24mpg at stage 0 to about 19mpg on the 93 oct map, so far the 91 doesn't seem much better. That seems very uncharacteristic of what I've heard with these maps, something must be up

My MPGs went down too, but it was a direct result of a newly invigorated driving style (meaning lots of WOT) after loading up the S-OTS maps! On long trips with a steady moderate throttle, I saw no loss of MPGs.

[DocBrown]

Originally Posted by Lex You're actually not getting any knock in the 93 oct tune runs. The little bit you see at the end of Run1 is simply the engine making noise as you let off the throttle. So you can definitely safely run the stg1 93 map while you still have the OEM HPFP. As for the fuel economy - I do notice some LTFT trims that are a little high in the low load regions. Make sure that you have no intake leaks by pressurizing the intake from the filter side and listening for them.

On 91oct runs 1 and 2 and 93oct run 1 I'm hitting KR of 1.05 shortly after going WOT, then tapering down from there. What are your thoughts on that?

I'll double check the intake sealing. I think I may have a vaccum problem elsewhere because of a variable swirl control system failure to actuate, but that's another story.

Thanks for taking a look

[Lex]

Originally Posted by DocBrown On 91oct runs 1 and 2 and 93oct run 1 I'm hitting KR of 1.05 shortly after going WOT, then tapering down from there. What are your thoughts on that? I'll double check the intake sealing. I think I may have a vaccum problem elsewhere because of a variable swirl control system failure to actuate, but that's another story. Thanks for taking a look

This is very minor. Spool up KR of this magnitude is not something I worry about. Every internal combustion engine knocks at one point or another and minor knock will not harm it.

[DocBrown]

Ok I see, that makes me feel a lot better. Coming up: HPFP internals and stage 2

[lx_diego]

I truthfully just want to be 100% sure. First of all I want to say thanks for the free maps and from all the positive feedback I definitely want to try it. I want to try the Stage 1 s-ots map but I have the cobb sri and tih. Is it safe? what should I be logging?

[DocBrown]

Originally Posted by lx_diego I truthfully just want to be 100% sure. First of all I want to say thanks for the free maps and from all the positive feedback I definitely want to try it. I want to try the Stage 1 s-ots map but I have the cobb sri and tih. Is it safe? what should I be logging?

Both of those have already been answered in this thread. READ READ READ

[Lex]

Originally Posted by lx_diego I truthfully just want to be 100% sure. First of all I want to say thanks for the free maps and from all the positive feedback I definitely want to try it. I want to try the Stage 1 s-ots map but I have the cobb sri and tih. Is it safe? what should I be logging?

The MAF calibration is wrong so it is not a good idea to do so.

However just for this we have this product:

Stratified MazdaSpeed / Mazda MPS S-OTS+ Tune [Stratified Mazda S-OTS+ Tune] - $25.00CAD : Stratified Automotive Controls

[lx_diego]

Originally Posted by Lex The MAF calibration is wrong so it is not a good idea to do so. However just for this we have this product: Stratified MazdaSpeed / Mazda MPS S-OTS+ Tune [Stratified Mazda S-OTS+ Tune] - $25.00CAD : Stratified Automotive Controls

thanks I will definitely be purchasing one later on today when i get home. I'm soon to get an UR uncatted dp and from there I will sure be looking forward to getting a custom tune from you. thanks again!

[it's toasted]

Lots of positive feedback on the S-OTS tune. With CS SRI/TIP, CS TMIC, and Autotech internals, would you recommend giving the stg.1 map a shot?

[theurgy]

These are made for JBR intakes.
If you're looking for a decent OTS map for your setup, check out Stratified's OTS+ maps.
A steal for $25.

[it's toasted]

a steal indeed! I went ahead and flashed the JBR S-OTS map, I experienced some impressive results.
4th gear log, any comments?

[jtday]

Originally Posted by it's toasted a steal indeed! I went ahead and flashed the JBR S-OTS map, I experienced some impressive results. 4th gear log, any comments?

That log pretty looks good. Your OL/CL transition is a little late but I've noticed that with these maps. Impressive you can hit load at ~14 psi.

[Lex]

Originally Posted by it's toasted a steal indeed! I went ahead and flashed the JBR S-OTS map, I experienced some impressive results. 4th gear log, any comments?

Very nice and clean. Boost will climb once the temperatures increase as it takes more boost at higher temperatures to hit the same load targets.

[it's toasted]

Originally Posted by Lex Very nice and clean. Boost will climb once the temperatures increase as it takes more boost at higher temperatures to hit the same load targets.

just purchased your S-OTS + map. I'm really looking forward to it!

[it's toasted]

@Lex; having some trouble with open office and submitting the form to get my OTS+ tune, I'd like to give you my info ASAP. I've already set up my account on your site and received the conformation emails.