Stratified S-OTS maps for the JBR Power Path Intakes

[MechEnix]

I really had not been seeing any knock until this fill up. I'd like to get close to 300 whp and then be able to save some cash for a bnr down the road. All that's left though is a new TMIC, custom tune, and/or a larger intake. I wish someone would just make a 3inch SRI with an adapted for a stock size TIP.

[Lex]

If you want to make sure you exceed 300whp and have E85 around that is the way to go. You wouldn't even need more modifications beyond what you currently have aside from the tune.

[MechEnix]

I've thought about E85, the closest station is probably 25 to 30 minutes away from me. I've looked into those 14 gallon containers, but it still becomes a nuisance.

[iammike]

lol, my car got close to 290whp fast....and now I'm kicking and screaming hoping to get that last little bit before the next time I'm on a dyno.

[MechEnix]

Originally Posted by iammike lol, my car got close to 290whp fast....and now I'm kicking and screaming hoping to get that last little bit before the next time I'm on a dyno.

Don't know what to tell ya man, I must have a turd for an engine. Are we still using 1.01 on VD and 3 for smoothing?

[iammike]

Originally Posted by MechEnix Don't know what to tell ya man, I must have a turd for an engine. Are we still using 1.01 on VD and 3 for smoothing?

Hell if I know. A lot of people will tell you 1.01. Some others will point out that one of the later release notes for VD said that he had corrected this.

I don't use VD to know how much HP I have but to compare vs other logs instead...and I just use the Dynojet preset of 1.09.

[DocBrown]

Just got done breaking in my hpfp internals and immediately loaded the Stage 2 93oct map. I feel a noticeable bump in performance from the stage 1 OTS map and the couple brief WOT pulls look good on boost/hpfp press/KR. Will run complete logs this weekend before and after I install my CX FMIC.

Thanks a lot Stratified!

By the way, is there a problem running the OTS stage 2 93oct with the CX FMIC, or is that OTS+ territory? I'm going to do OTS+ anyways to kill some CEL codes but just wondering what to expect.

Thanks guys

[Lex]

Originally Posted by DocBrown Just got done breaking in my hpfp internals and immediately loaded the Stage 2 93oct map. I feel a noticeable bump in performance from the stage 1 OTS map and the couple brief WOT pulls look good on boost/hpfp press/KR. Will run complete logs this weekend before and after I install my CX FMIC. Thanks a lot Stratified! By the way, is there a problem running the OTS stage 2 93oct with the CX FMIC, or is that OTS+ territory? I'm going to do OTS+ anyways to kill some CEL codes but just wondering what to expect. Thanks guys

As long as it is leak free there should be no issues. Post up a log and I will be glad to have a look.

[DocBrown]

Originally Posted by Lex As long as it is leak free there should be no issues. Post up a log and I will be glad to have a look.

Sounds good, gonna try to do it this weekend

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[Ewind]

any idea why I am getting a

unable to load base map
Invalid base map file. Please verify vehicle and vendor of map file
5:1208

?

[Lex]

Originally Posted by Ewind any idea why I am getting a unable to load base map Invalid base map file. Please verify vehicle and vendor of map file 5:1208 ?

Is this for the free sots maps? THis just means there is a mismatch between your vehicle market and year and the map. If you are trying to load these in atr you won't be able to because they are locked down maps.

[Ewind]

Ahh I see that makes sense. I wanted to look at some of the data on your maps.

Makes sense.

[googlebutt]

Is there any issue with running the stage 2 91 map with both cats intact? I have internals, but I'm in California so my only option is gutting my midpipe.. which I do not have time to do for a while.

[himurax13]

Originally Posted by googlebutt Is there any issue with running the stage 2 91 map with both cats intact? I have internals, but I'm in California so my only option is gutting my midpipe.. which I do not have time to do for a while.

Yes, Noob.

You should lose at least 1 cat if you want to run a Stage 2 map.

[texasboy21]

Just read the entire thread, and it wasn't asked. Can the stock MAF/airbox be used with the S-OTS tune with the JBR intake elbow and TIH?

It's my understanding both the JBR and stock MAF are 68mm.

[SarcasticOne]

Originally Posted by texasboy21 Just read the entire thread, and it wasn't asked. Can the stock MAF/airbox be used with the S-OTS tune with the JBR intake elbow and TIH? It's my understanding both the JBR and stock MAF are 68mm.

Nope... If it can't be used on different intakes, it can't be used on stock air box

[texasboy21]

Originally Posted by SarcasticOne Nope... If it can't be used on different intakes, it can't be used on stock air box

It can't be used on different intakes due to a different MAF diameter; JBR is 68mm. Stock is also 68mm. Assume the correct TIH and intake elbow are used (JBR), can the S-OTS be run safely?

[SarcasticOne]

Originally Posted by texasboy21 It can't be used on different intakes due to a different MAF diameter; JBR is 68mm. Stock is also 68mm. Assume the correct TIH and intake elbow are used (JBR), can the S-OTS be run safely?

It's been said before, can't even use this on a COBB/corksport/whatever else other "stock sized" intake is available...

[texasboy21]

Originally Posted by SarcasticOne It's been said before, can't even use this on a COBB/corksport/whatever else other "stock sized" intake is available...

It's been said it can't be run without a JBR intake bc of MAF diameter. Cobb and Corksport are 70mm and 66mm respectively, not the stock diameter.

[Lex]

The MAF calibration for the JBR intake is indeed different from the OEM MAF calibration. So this will throw off the load calculations in the ECU.

[texasissouth]

I just loaded these maps up yesterday and have been driving around on them. They feel wonderful, but I've been having weird large LTFT problems. The map started out with good trims, but got worse as I drove it along. I just double-checked everything and all the hoses on the intake seem tight, does anyone have any ideas or do I just need to give it more time? I've driven about 80 miles or so.

[Mike@Stratified]

What intake do you have on the car?

[texasissouth]

Hi Mike,
Right now I have the jbr intake and the stock TIP

[Mike@Stratified]

Check to make sure the o-ring on the MAF sensor isn't broken or torn. +10 isn't ideal, but it isn't going to hurt anything either.

Sent while Stratified.

[texasissouth]

I just checked the maf, the o-ring is good, it sits in there nice and snug and it's tightened down pretty good. I had an issue originally where one of the hoses to the BPV got crimped and it would actuate at 9 psi, but I fixed that and reflashed the map to make sure it wouldn't affect anything, so it shouldn't be that right?
I had logs up there, but if you think it's fine LTFTing along at like +8 (idle) to +11 (throttle) I won't worry about it.

[Mike@Stratified]

Like I said, it isn't ideal, but also not a big deal. Just ensure no leaks pre-compressor. If you are certain of that, I wouldn't worry about the trims.

[AnubisFSU]

Just to confirm, These maps do not have the EGR delete code disabled? Right now im running the S-OTS stage 1 91oct and would like to delete the EGR valve.

[Lex]

Originally Posted by AnubisFSU Just to confirm, These maps do not have the EGR delete code disabled? Right now im running the S-OTS stage 1 91oct and would like to delete the EGR valve.

This is correct for the free JBR maps. Our flash tunes you can spec to have any codes disabled.

[AnubisFSU]

Since these maps are locked is it still possible to disable SWAS and set launch control?

[iammike]

Originally Posted by AnubisFSU Since these maps are locked is it still possible to disable SWAS and set launch control?

Disable SWAS...no.

Setting LC and FFS will depend on if the OTS maps have been updated to the later ATR version and you AP is on the later firmware. Cobb no longer provides a website to adjust LC and FFS on locked maps but instead made it part of the flashing process on your AP.....but if the OTS file is too old, it will not be compatible and will only flash as a normal file with no LC or FFS.

[Snapple415]

It's too bad I can't use this with my intake.. I had loaded the map just to see how it felt and it felt absolutely amazing. My FP and knock was pretty close to perfect. I'm going to assume i have to go the custom route in other to be able to get map similar to this that will work best for my vehicle?

[Mike@Stratified]

Originally Posted by Snapple415 It's too bad I can't use this with my intake.. I had loaded the map just to see how it felt and it felt absolutely amazing. My FP and knock was pretty close to perfect. I'm going to assume i have to go the custom route in other to be able to get map similar to this that will work best for my vehicle?

You can get one of our Flash tunes for as little as $50 which will account for all of your modifications, CELs and SWAS preferences.

Sent while Stratified.

[tfusch4]

@Lex; I'm looking to optimize my current set-up. I've been on the fence with the CS turbo and thinking about just biting the bullet and putting the new CS turbo on and having it tuned. However, from what I've seen thus far, the turbo torque curve is quite linear with the HP curve. I like the sudden burst of torque with the K04 and love the E85 Flash Tune. I would like some input on what I can do next. I'm leaning towards a JBR 3" or 3.5" WP intake and a pnp intake manifold and custom tune with my mods. If I were to add a catless downpipe to the mix, is it possible/safe to run 25psi spike and taper to 20 psi at redline on the k04. I know it would really be pushing it beyond it's design, but can it be done? I'm just looking for a little advice on which direction to go for the next 25hp.

[Lex]

Originally Posted by tfusch4 @Lex; I'm looking to optimize my current set-up. I've been on the fence with the CS turbo and thinking about just biting the bullet and putting the new CS turbo on and having it tuned. However, from what I've seen thus far, the turbo torque curve is quite linear with the HP curve. I like the sudden burst of torque with the K04 and love the E85 Flash Tune. I would like some input on what I can do next. I'm leaning towards a JBR 3" or 3.5" WP intake and a pnp intake manifold and custom tune with my mods. If I were to add a catless downpipe to the mix, is it possible/safe to run 25psi spike and taper to 20 psi at redline on the k04. I know it would really be pushing it beyond it's design, but can it be done? I'm just looking for a little advice on which direction to go for the next 25hp.

All very good questions. Take a WOT datalog of the current map and setup. Send it along with your power goals and complete mod list and budget to feedback at stratifiedauto.com

From there one of us will be able to give you a direction quite clearly based on the datalog and information.

[GreenieMS3]

i see everyone on here talking intakes and such on stage 1, i just got my genpu ms3 about 6 weeks ago and my AP will be here wednesday. Can i safely flash the S-OTS stage 1 map on a bone stock vehicle? after reading about cobbs maps its safe to say ill stay away from those to avoid a little ZZB possibility.

[El Tolete]

Can someone recommend good tires for a mazdacx7.

[texasissouth]

Originally Posted by GreenieMS3 i see everyone on here talking intakes and such on stage 1, i just got my genpu ms3 about 6 weeks ago and my AP will be here wednesday. Can i safely flash the S-OTS stage 1 map on a bone stock vehicle? after reading about cobbs maps its safe to say ill stay away from those to avoid a little ZZB possibility.

Need a JBR intake for this tune. There are also OTS tunes which Stratified sells on their website where you can put in your vehicle configuration and then the cost to update them I believe is lower than a brand new one. I'd suggest that route, or buying a JBR intake soon and using the provided S-OTS tune.

[GreenieMS3]

Originally Posted by texasissouth Need a JBR intake for this tune. There are also OTS tunes which Stratified sells on their website where you can put in your vehicle configuration and then the cost to update them I believe is lower than a brand new one. I'd suggest that route, or buying a JBR intake soon and using the provided S-OTS tune.

will the s-ots maps work with the jbr full 3" intake or are they specific to just the power path sram?

[BoostedHatch]

Installing anything larger than stock sized intake (i.e. 3" or bigger) will not work with the S-OTS. You will get a lot of stuttering as the ECU mis-calculates the intake (thinking it is a stock intake but actually pulling in more air with a 3" or larger intake)
The S-OTS maps are for the JBR short ram intakes (stage 1 or 2) or the cold air intake (stage 3).
Note that Stratified calls the stages differently - stage 1 = JBR intake + stock HPFP; stage 2 = JBR intake + upgraded HPFP
see Stratified MazdaSpeed / Mazda MPS Off The Shelf (S-OTS) Maps [Stratified Mazda S-OTS Maps] - It's Free! : Stratified Automotive Controls

[Lex]

Originally Posted by GreenieMS3 will the s-ots maps work with the jbr full 3" intake or are they specific to just the power path sram?

You definitely don't want to run a larger intake on the free SOTS+ tunes because the car will run lean. We do have flash tunes that we cater to any intake or modification combination you have (short of a bigger turbo)

Stratified MazdaSpeed / Mazda MPS Flash Tune [Stratified Mazda Flash Tune] - $50.00USD : Stratified Automotive Controls