VTA ...

[Dash08]

Well, I'm running the HKS VTA right now and haven't had any issues.

I guess the HKS and Greddy are the only two you can run like that?

[harryclay]

2nd day of mixed driving on my greddy vta, had a few little pops in the exhaust but it dosnt seem to be going rich inbetween shifts

[IshiKage]

Originally Posted by Lex Use one of these if using an inlet pipe and clamp it down. They come in all sizes. I am just testing now and I put a small plastic container and clamped it down in my recirc hose. That will be cleaned up later though.

where can we get these condoms and butt plugs from. Im having no luck finding them in hardware stores, health and beauty isle, and sex shops.

[ms3rick]

I need condom and ga with this feature !

[mrtheandrew]

Check the storage aisle at the hardware store. The little bastards are used on wire shelving.

[IshiKage]

mine.

[ckMS3]

Originally Posted by IshiKage mine.

Thanks I've been waiting for some more pictures to try this, the inner rice in me is coming out.

Thanks lex for this thread, I need to get myself a GA.

[Lex]

Originally Posted by IshiKage mine.

You run the stocker VTA? That must be terrible at idle and part throttle in terms of AFRs and STFT/LTFT.

[IshiKage]

Originally Posted by Lex You run the stocker VTA? That must be terrible at idle and part throttle in terms of AFRs and STFT/LTFT.

I just switched over to see what would happen. Going to give it a look. idle is fine. Havent driven it yet

[ckMS3]

Originally Posted by IshiKage I just switched over to see what would happen. Going to give it a look. idle is fine. Havent driven it yet

Did you give it any gas at all? I just tried this with the forge which is practically the same as oem, and idle was fine until I gave it a little gas which then it would studder at idle which I'm guessing is expected.

[ms3rick]

Hmm, I wonder how a 1g dsm crushed would do.

[IshiKage]

Originally Posted by ckMS3 Did you give it any gas at all? I just tried this with the forge which is practically the same as oem, and idle was fine until I gave it a little gas which then it would studder at idle which I'm guessing is expected.

just drove it. So far its fine. Pop here and there. I felt a little break up at PT once.

turbo spool from the front and through the exhaust sounds mean

[ckMS3]

Originally Posted by IshiKage just drove it. So far its fine. Pop here and there. I felt a little break up at PT once. turbo spool from the front and through the exhaust sounds mean

Yea I just went out, between shifts it goes rich and studders a tad once back in gear, otherwise it seems fine. I'll try out the stock bpv and see if it's any different.

[NRSpeed]

So, I was told about the thread and how Lex found you can run the Stocker VTA.

Well, I tried it since I was swaping TIPs (Broke the stupid nipple).

At idle if you put your hand in front its just puffin out air like crazy, at least mine was.

So I drove it up the block. Seemed ok at first but then during cruising (not accelerating, just PT or enginebreaking) it was at -25. Shifts had horrid response. But the blow off was very non-dramatic and gave me a boner that spit white rice.

Originally Posted by IshiKage just drove it. So far its fine. Pop here and there. I felt a little break up at PT once. turbo spool from the front and through the exhaust sounds mean

Originally Posted by ckMS3 Yea I just went out, between shifts it goes rich and studders a tad once back in gear, otherwise it seems fine. I'll try out the stock bpv and see if it's any different.

Did either of you actually monitor with a DH or AP? Or just go with seat of the pants feel? Unless you have a crazy strong spring in there its likely just causing you to run REALLY rich.

[mrtheandrew]

just tried this out, with my only mod being a CS intake/tip. only thing i noticed was idle was a little lower and had an occasional studder while idling w/o defrost or AC on. the rest of the time it drove like normal, the shifting being a little different, but not much.

[dantes5823]

Again. People are missing the point of this thread. It's not "hey vta the stocker" it's "ga allows you to vta the stocker and any bpv"

[mrtheandrew]

the point is if you are only having problems at idle and decel, then the GA could be a solution for those who want to serve some rice. but then if you can run a bpv vta with the GA, then why not just run a BOV thats designed to stay shut at idle and decel?

[Lex]

Originally Posted by dantes5823 Again. People are missing the point of this thread. It's not "hey vta the stocker" it's "ga allows you to vta the stocker and any bpv"

Yes, you guys are missing the point. Running the stocker VTA is terrible. There is a massive air leak at idle and part throttle. Oy.

The POINT was that I can run VTA because of a new feature I am adding to the GA. If you guys think the car runs well VTA on the stock valve, wait until you see how well it runs with the GA.

[ms3rick]

how is the ga progress mr lex!!!!!! Can't wait! Is there going to be fine tuning needed per vehicle?

[Lex]

Originally Posted by ms3rick how is the ga progress mr lex!!!!!! Can't wait! Is there going to be fine tuning needed per vehicle?

Hoping not. This is why I am waiting on BPVs to come in so I can do some testing.

[Mistersix]

That GA is freakin cool. definitely on my list of what to do next.

[NRSpeed]

Originally Posted by Lex Yes, you guys are missing the point. Running the stocker VTA is terrible. There is a massive air leak at idle and part throttle. Oy. The POINT was that I can run VTA because of a new feature I am adding to the GA. If you guys think the car runs well VTA on the stock valve, wait until you see how well it runs with the GA.

When getting second hand information I was under the impression you could. By the thread, you may have a way to run VTA on Stock BPV (or Greddy, Forge, etc) when the Guardian Angel is in use.


Basically, if this ends up being a feature you include in the GA you will allow people to run VTA possibly on nearly the same exact tune with the included feature of safety. Specially since the GA is cheaper then a new HKS.

[IshiKage]

going back to recirc until I pick up this hks, you can hear the bpv leak at idle

[TiGraySpeed6]

For those still not making the GA connection, please see below references:

http://www.mazdaspeedforums.org/foru...ection-104486/

http://www.mazdaspeedforums.org/foru...-angel-109466/

How To: fine tune your guardian angel



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[Dano]

Originally Posted by NRSpeed When getting second hand information I was under the impression you could. By the thread, you may have a way to run VTA on Stock BPV (or Greddy, Forge, etc) when the Guardian Angel is in use. Basically, if this ends up being a feature you include in the GA you will allow people to run VTA possibly on nearly the same exact tune with the included feature of safety. Specially since the GA is cheaper then a new HKS.

Bingo!

if I were running an OE type BPV and wanted to go VTA...it would be a no brainer to get a GA instead of upgrading to an HKS type BOV.

two birds one stone

[Dash08]

Originally Posted by Dano Bingo! if I were running an OE type BPV and wanted to go VTA...it would be a no brainer to get a GA instead of upgrading to an HKS type BOV. two birds one stone

Yeah, but if you already have an HKS and wanted to try VTA for shits & gigs, why not?

That's my thinking here.

[Mistersix]

Originally Posted by Dano Bingo! if I were running an OE type BPV and wanted to go VTA...it would be a no brainer to get a GA instead of upgrading to an HKS type BOV. two birds one stone

Thats a good point. Now that i'm back on the stock valve, (funds for FP) I may go this route. And have the added protection.

[mrtheandrew]

Originally Posted by Dash08 Yeah, but if you already have an HKS and wanted to try VTA for shits & gigs, why not? That's my thinking here.

mine as well. if you've already got a BOV laying around, why not? but if you don't, and want to run VTA, get the GA with the sweet new feature from Lex to run the stock BPV VTA. this would effectively kill two birds with one stone, as mentioned earlier. rice and safe sex in the same bowl.

[dantes5823]

I'm gonna prob pick this up next paycheck or the following

[Lex]

The change to add the VTA feature to the GA is a software change so the implementation will be quick but I will have to do more testing with aftermarket BPVs before release. I am picking some up tomorrow. The OEM works well but we'll see how different springs affect things.

I am also going to investigate how running the feature AND recirculating will affect spool (ie by keeping the valve close, can I improve spool)?

In the end the feature will be something the customer can turn on and off as they desire.

[dantes5823]

Originally Posted by Lex The change to add the VTA feature to the GA is a software change so the implementation will be quick but I will have to do more testing with aftermarket BPVs before release. I am picking some up tomorrow. The OEM works well but we'll see how different springs affect things. I am also going to investigate how running the feature AND recirculating will affect spool (ie by keeping the valve close, can I improve spool)? In the end the feature will be something the customer can turn on and off as they desire.

Well like I said i ordered my Tial q conversion so I'll be willing to be a guinea pig . Especially if I got the wrong spring lol.

[mrtheandrew]

glad to hear the stock bpv works well with this new feature, as it sounded pretty nice vented. loud too. starting rice fund now.

[Lex]

Funny how more people are interested in the VTA (rice ) feature than the failsafe aspect.

[m4tic]

ricers

[IshiKage]

how much for GA?

[Lex]

Originally Posted by IshiKage how much for GA?

Guardian Angel Overboost Protection [GUARDIAN_ANGEL] - $179.00CAD : Stratified Automotive Controls

[lilred]

Originally Posted by Lex Guardian Angel Overboost Protection [GUARDIAN_ANGEL] - $179.00CAD : Stratified Automotive Controls

Is that a lot or a little monopoly money? Haha I kid I kid

[dooderek]

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[TiGraySpeed6]

Originally Posted by Lex I am also going to investigate how running the feature AND recirculating will affect spool (ie by keeping the valve close, can I improve spool)? In the end the feature will be something the customer can turn on and off as they desire.

Interested in the results of that... It wouldn't be the first time Mazda's Big Brother Division stepped in with their fairly conservative ways to limit warranty costs on the K04 as it was deployed from the factory...

On off switch? Sound like calm weekday driver & Friday Night Rice

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