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Post Official Gen One MS3 CBE Thread!!

Updated 2/2015 by @Inquisitive; with more current information.

Mufflers / Silencers are expensive and offer the least bang for buck when compared with the HP gains to costs of (from highest to lowest) N2O, BT plus MAP, TP / RP, WMI, SRI / TIP, DP, Camshaft, IC, PNP, EM and IM. Having said that, a straight muffler / silencer delete is the least chosen option below. However, more members have deleted their resonators than have purchased ABEs or the majority of CBEs (barring the top two). CBE and ABE are mainly about the sound and partially the looks (4” Tips?). If you do not have a lot of HP, perhaps you can bluff your way with loudness.

For guidance, decide upon a fast cat or not depending upon your emissions inspections and choose either a TP / RP (cat-2 delete) or DP (cat-1 delete) first for more power. That will provide a lower frequency tone, which is a bit louder. If you didn’t purchase a Long / Full DP with fast cat, then you need to decide on a second cat (cat-2) delete via a Test / Race / Track Pipe, which also adds sound level volume and adds more power through less exhaust restriction. “The increased exhaust flow will move the detonation threshold up and creates enough VE to allow for slightly higher boost targets.” (Cobb) However, running completely cat-less can create severe boost spikes as well as over boost conditions. Do not restrict your future BT decisions by going less than 3” if you decide to continue with a CBE with resonator delete. You must decide on your drone tolerance level, which is why the above progression is proposed.

Exhausting

Cat-back Exhaust (CBE) (from fast cat to back of vehicle)
Axle-back Exhaust (ABE)

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Cat-back Exhaust (CBE) (from fast cat to back of vehicle)

Ultimate Racing
MS3 Gen1 CBE

4” Single Angle Cut

4” Rolled Angle Cut

4” Titanium Tip

MS3 Gen2 CBE

1.41 HP, 2.8 Torque, 3” 304 SS, 4” tips, 3/8” flanges, TIG welded, 26 lbs v 42 lbs stock
Available from:
MS3 Gen1
Ultimate Racing MS3 Gen1
MS3 Gen2
Ultimate Racing MS3 Gen2
MS6 (Not found)
MS3 Gen1 (Yes)
CBE $550, Resonated +$100, Tips: polished straight, angle, angle rolled or +$75 angle Titanium; Gasket $18
MS3 Gen2 (Yes)
TBE $1,195 Catless or +$100 Ceramic Core or +$150 Metal Substrate Core, +$50 V2 DP, +$25 Wideband Bung, +$80 Resonated TP or +$100 Ceramic Core TP or +$150 Ceramic Core TP, +$100 Resonator, Tips: 4” straight, angle, +$50 rolled angle or +$145 Titanium angle;
CBE $750 Tips: 4” straight, angle, rolled angle or +$145 Titanium angle; +$100 Resonated or +$100 Ceramic Core or +$150 Ceramic Core; +$18 Gasket
Muffler $475 Tips: 4” straight, angle, rolled angle or +$145 Titanium angle; +$18 Gasket

CorkSport
MS6 Power Series

MS6 Gen1 TBE

MS3 Gen1 CBE

MS3 Gen1 TBE

MS3 Gen2 CBE

MS3 Gen2 Single Exit

21%: 80mm pipes, high flow silencer / muffler or 100mm single exit exhaust saving 22 lbs, 2 year warranty, ovaled 80mm tips
Available from:
MS6
CorkSport MS6
MS3 Gen1
CorkSport MS3 Gen1
MS3 Gen2
CorkSport MS3 Gen2
MS6 (Yes) Power Series $699.99; TBE $1,217.99 Resonated RP or +$90 High Flow Cat
MS3 Gen1 (Yes) Power Series CBE $449.99; TBE $807.99
MS3 Gen2 (Yes) TBE $1,197.99; CBE $749.99; ABE $450.99; Single Exit $549.99

Resonator Delete
See TP / RP in: http://www.mazdaspeedforums.org/foru...-thread-99627/

CP-E
MS6 Austenite

MS6 Single CBE

MS3 Gen1 Nexus

MS3 Gen2 Triton

MS3 Gen2 Tips

3” SS, dual resonators, dual 4” tips
Available from:
MS6
CP-E MS6
MS3 Gen1
CP-E MS3 Gen1
MS3 Gen2
CP-E MS3 Gen2
MS6 (Yes) Austenite $1,061.75; Single CBE $726.90 +$100 Resonator; Stock or 3” DP
MS3 Gen1 (Yes) Nexus $720.51 Tips: Polished, Titan, +$100 Black Chrome
MS3 Gen2 (Yes) Triton $882.52 Tips: Standard, Polished or +$50 Black; +$150 12” Oval Muffler

Magnaflow Dual Split Rear Exit CBE
MS6 CBE

MS3 Gen2 CBE

2.5" (might actually be 2¼” at restriction) pipe; 4" tips, mandrel bent piping and a lifetime MagnaFlow warranty
WARNING: may not align well with UR RP / TP (leaks, carbon build-up – rfinkle2)
Available from:
MS6
Magnaflow MS6
MS3 Gen2
Magnaflow MS3 Gen2
MS6 (Yes) $716.95, MS3 Gen1 (Not found), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) $717.95

OBX
MS3 Gen1

MS3 Gen2

T-304 SS, lifetime warranty of factory defects, CNC machined flanges, DUAL-TIG
Available from:
MS3 Gen1
OBX CBE MS3 Gen1
MS3 Gen2
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MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Yes) $511, MS3 Gen2 (Yes) $532

CNT
MS3 Gen1

MS3 Gen2

Racing 76mm CBE: 3” 304 SS, 4” blue or silver tips, gaskets and hardware included, 4 – 6 weeks to manufacture
Available from: CNT MS3
MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Yes) Blue Tip $369, Silver Tip $359, MS3 Gen2 (Yes) Blue Tips $550, Silver Tips $499

Cobb
MS3 Gen 1 CBE

MS3 Gen 1 TBE

MS3 Gen 2 CBE

MS3 Gen 2 TBE

3" pipe; 84 dB conforms to California’s SAE J1169's 95 dB noise level limit; T304 SS
Available from:
MS3 Gen1
Cobb MS3 Gen1
MS3 Gen2
Cobb MS3 Gen2
MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Yes) CBE $725, TBE $1375; MS3 Gen2 (Yes) CBE $895, TBE $1,475

Speed Daddy (eBay)

10 – 20 HP, 3” T-304 SS pipes, mandrel bends, TIG welded, CNC machined, Tips 4.5”, gaskets and hardware included
Available from: Speed Daddy (eBay)
MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Not found), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) $348.99

Racing Beat Power Pulse
MS3 Gen1 Twin-Tip

MS3 Gen2

3” 304 SS utilizes all stock hangers and mounting brackets to ensure a secure fitment, cast SS flanges are used to mate each component section and incorporates a Mazda OEM-style O-ring crush gasket for superior sealing
WARNING: many posts of poor customer service
Available from:
MS3 Gen1
Racing Beat MS3 Gen1
MS3 Gen2
Racing Beat MS3 Gen2
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XForce

3”
Available from: XForce TBE
MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Not found), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) Australian$1,600 TBE; Australian$880 CBE

ARK Performance DT-S Exhaust System

Info: http://www.arkperformance.com/
10 HP, 9 torque, provides the perfect combination of sound, style and performance, 3” mirror polished T304 SS, mandrel bends, TIG welded, no silencer, 72 dB @ 3000 RPMS, 4.5” tip finishes such as polished, burnt and “tecno”, installation time: 40 minutes claimed
Available from: ARK Performance DT-S CBE
MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Not found), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) $1,087.20

GReddy Racing CBE
MS3 Gen1 RS

MS3 Gen1 TiC

MS3 Gen2 SP Elite

MS3 Gen2 Supreme SP

Info: http://www.greddy.com/products/
80mm unpolished SS pipe; 4" titanium tips, dual polished SS mufflers / silencers, not available – replaced with SP Elite: 70mm, single resonator, no muffler / silencer, sound level 79db, 47 lbs
Available from:
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GReddy Racing Ti-C
MS3 Gen2 SP Elite
GReddy Racing SP Elite
MS3 Gen2 SP
GReddy Racing Supreme SP
MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Yes) RS (Racing Sport) Exhaust $?, $699 TI-C; MS3 Gen2 (Yes) $699 TI-C (single); $1,135.25 SP Elite and $? Supreme SP Exhaust

TurboXS Cat-Back or Stealthback Exhaust System

3” T-304 SS, mandrel bent, CNC flanges, dual resonated, 5” slash cut tip
Available from: TurboXS CBE
MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Yes) $599, MS3 Gen2 (Not found)

Vibrant Downpipe-Back (CBE) Exhaust System

20 HP, 25 ft. lbs. at 4500 RPMs, 3” SS, CNC, mandrel bent, unrestricted exhaust flow, two straight-thru StreetPower oval mufflers and resonators, 4” angle cut exhaust tip
Available from: Vibrant Downpipe-Back (CBE) Exhaust System
MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Yes) $665.95, MS3 Gen2 (Not found)

HKS Hi-power Exhaust System

Hasegawa, Kitagawa, and Sigma
Info: http://www.hksusa.com/
3”, mandrel bent, SS muffler, O2 bung
Available from: HKS Hi-power CBE
MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Yes) $514.95, MS3 Gen2 (Not found)

ETS CBE

Extreme Turbo Systems
Available from: ETS CBE
MS6 (Yes) $1,018.95, MS3 Gen1 (Not found), MS3 Gen2 (Not found)

GHL CBE
MS6

MS3 Gen1

3”, SS, 4” double wall tip
Available from:
MS6
GHL CBE MS6
MS3 Gen1
GHL CBE MS3 Gen1
MS6 (Yes) $938.95, MS3 Gen1 (Yes) $759.95, MS3 Gen2 (Not found)

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Axle-back Exhaust (ABE)

CorkSport ABE

silencer / muffler delete, mandrel bent, TIG welded 80mm corrosion-resistant T304 SS polished piping for a smooth flow and clean solid connections with 100mm SS tips, two-year warranty
Available from: CorkSport ABE
MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Not found), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) $450.99

Ultimate Racing Performance Muffler

304 SS piping, dual high-flow (straight through) polished SS silencers / mufflers, 4” tips (options: single wall, rolled, titanium), TIG welded, upgradeable to CBE
Available from: Ultimate Racing Performance Muffler
MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Not found), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) $465

HKS Legamax Axle-back

Hasegawa, Kitagawa, and Sigma
Info: http://www.hksusa.com/
SUS304 SS, 65 mm (2.55”), 2 110 mm tips
Available from: HKS Legamax ABE
MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Not found), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) Legamax $995.95

Borla Axleback

2¾" pipe; T304 SS premium austenitic stainless steel, superior to T-400 series; 5" tips, straight-through to unleash hidden horsepower. Increased exhaust velocity adds power, fuel economy, distinctive BORLA Sound of Power, mandrel bends, computer-controlled CNC, Million-Mile Warranty
Available from: Borla ABE
MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Not found), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) $772.99

AutoExe ABE
Premium Muffler

Exhaust Chamber

Available from:
Axela BK3P
AutoExe BK3P Tail Muffler
Axela BK3FW
AutoExe BK3FW Tail Muffler
MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Yes), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) $486.81 to 550.31 Axela BK3P Muffler; $599.70 Axela BK3FW Muffler
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Fucking awesome! How's the knee?
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Fucking awesome! How's the knee?
Hurts but the pills and sympathy is nice.
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Installed the Corksport Turbo back Exhaust system on my '07 MS3 but the o2 sensors were pretty much welded into place, and when attempting to remove them they pretty much shattered. I was hoping to find out if a new wide-band o2 sensor would be better if I plan on getting it tuned, and where would be the best place to get an inexpensive o2 sensor.
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Installed the Corksport Turbo back Exhaust system on my '07 MS3 but the o2 sensors were pretty much welded into place, and when attempting to remove them they pretty much shattered. I was hoping to find out if a new wide-band o2 sensor would be better if I plan on getting it tuned, and where would be the best place to get an inexpensive o2 sensor.
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hoping to find out if a new wide-band o2 sensor would be better if I plan on getting it tuned

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hoping to find out if a new wide-band o2 sensor would be better if I plan on getting it tuned
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Does anyone have pictures of the CNT catback installed? I want to see how this 30 degree exit looks.
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Does anyone have pictures of the CNT catback installed? I want to see how this 30 degree exit looks.
Here is a pic of mine:

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any idea when the greddy type rs cbe debuts?
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2 weeks....lol!

Seriously, no idea, have not heard of it. I do love my 3" corksport.
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I just want some feedback about the CNT catback ?

- Is it drone ?
- How much louder than OEM ?
- Much bubly than the oem (subaru like)
- Is it much louder than OEM at 3000rpm at 60mph on highway ?
- Do you have an idea to put the tip straight instead than 30 degree angle
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I just want some feedback about the CNT catback ?

- Is it drone ?
- How much louder than OEM ?
- Much bubly than the oem (subaru like)
- Is it much louder than OEM at 3000rpm at 60mph on highway ?
- Do you have an idea to put the tip straight instead than 30 degree angle
1. A little, but not half as much as my straight piped exhaust did.
2. Idle=very quiet
2-2.5k cruise= pretty quiet, no real drone.
3k cruise= only a tiny bit more drone than stock
wot= Racecar
3. Yes
4. See #3
5. Cut and weld
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1. A little, but not half as much as my straight piped exhaust did.
2. Idle=very quiet
2-2.5k cruise= pretty quiet, no real drone.
3k cruise= only a tiny bit more drone than stock
wot= Racecar
3. Yes
4. See #3
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I just got the CNT turboback and im getting instaled this weekend i'll post up pics when done.
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I just got the CNT turboback and im getting instaled this weekend i'll post up pics when done.
Nice thanks you have speed3 black like mine so it will be helpful

I'm waiting news from you
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So it's perfect fit for you ... no regret ?
For the price it can't be beat.

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Can I heat the hanger to remove the 30 degree angle and bring it straight line and cold it to stay in place when I like it ?
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Can I heat the hanger to remove the 30 degree angle and bring it straight line and cold it to stay in place when I like it ?
Yes or no ?
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Yes or no ?
Not really.

Its the tip the creates the angle, not the hanger.

Im sure that an exhaust shop could cut it and weld in back on straight for pretty cheap.
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Not really.

Its the tip the creates the angle, not the hanger.

Im sure that an exhaust shop could cut it and weld in back on straight for pretty cheap.
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Here are 2 vids for the CNT Setup.

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I just got the CNT turboback and im getting instaled this weekend i'll post up pics when done.
News from your setup ?
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News from your setup ?
Instaled this weekend at Nator, took a while cuz we had no lift just some jack stands lol
had to cut the old exhaust off all in all loved it, sounds nice, not too loud just real deep, didnt instal the catless DP because we were too drunk and tired lol but thats next.
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I hesitated between CNT and Corksport ...

because I want the one who has the more deeper sound, bublier (no drone) , and close enough quiet comparable at the oem.

which one you take ?
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Here are some pics
Are you able to post picture on the right orientation and with clean a clean view from the back of the car please ?
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Are you able to post picture on the right orientation and with clean a clean view from the back of the car please ?
yea ill take some once im home, i love it it sounds stock just deep deeep, once u flor it it gets loider but keeps the deep tone and yea it sounds "bubbly" at times, with a test pipe/race pipe or dp im sure it will be even louder
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yea ill take some once im home, i love it it sounds stock just deep deeep, once u flor it it gets loider but keeps the deep tone and yea it sounds "bubbly" at times, with a test pipe/race pipe or dp im sure it will be even louder
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IMO Racing Beat FTW. Really love the sound in the vid. Mine is getting installed at this moment. Didn't like the twin tips though, so I ordered the single tip version.

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Somebody here drive the cobb exhaust on his 07-09 Speed3 ?

is it drone ?
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Do you have some pic from behind your car to see what is like on car ?
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Somebody here drive the cobb exhaust on his 07-09 Speed3 ?

is it drone ?
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Do you have some pic from behind your car to see what is like on car ?
Nobody ???
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Corksport catback genone owner !

Can I have your feedback about your catback ?

Like a daily driver is it nice ?
Absolutely not annoying during higway trip ?
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^^ Buy the CNT.

Save money.

You're way over thinking this.

Yes I have it (Full TBE, catted)

It is less drone over stock.

At idle it is silent.

At WOT, it is sex.

That is all.

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^ ^Agreed.

You are putting way too much thought into something that is should be a relatively simple choice.

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