Big build

[dturboman]

Originally Posted by 06Speed6 Yeah can you post the scalers for it? That would be awesome.

Map Scalar A: 350.03
Map Scalar B: 0.24
Map Scalar Offset: -17.06

[Erich]

Originally Posted by dturboman I so have an IC but I also have a bypass, with the bypass during a WOT run the IATs are not bad most I seen was 15 above ambient ( I will post logs next week) - due to the liquid intercooling.. but after a run temps creep up. stock axles as of now. 4 bar tune is not complete... there was an 18 psi run done the other day (lowest boost I can run) with no timing and no meth, it was just a baby run to re-check the rings since there was almost no break in done. I do have the scalars if you want those? as soon as the final high boost tune is done I will let you know how the 4 bar worked out. I got lucky and Erich passed me along the settings for it.

Pretty sure I posted the settings for the 4 bar sensore in the 3.5 bar thread as well.

[dturboman]

4 bar tune update - Made 470 @5600 rpm on 27 lbs no meth and mild timing but then went lean so the run ended early and now have a misfire, looking like an injector at this point... I will know more tomorrow.

if anyone has an injector let me know

[superskaterxes]

are those 4 bar settings confirmed? for the entire measurement range?

[dturboman]

Originally Posted by superskaterxes are those 4 bar settings confirmed? for the entire measurement range?

so far so good... but we only got to 27psi - no meth no aggressive timing but they have been dead on.

[Erich]

Originally Posted by superskaterxes are those 4 bar settings confirmed? for the entire measurement range?

My AP logs approximately matched what the dyno recorded all the way up to 43 PSI.

[dturboman]

Originally Posted by Erich My AP logs approximately matched what the dyno recorded all the way up to 43 PSI.

have been dead on for me... thanks again, hopefully I can find an injector cheap.

[dturboman]

Dyno sheet update.

Correction 28psi... shit went south right around 5500 and that was the end of the run.

was on its way to the 500's with only mild timing.

[dturboman]

Cleaning up the tune.

28PSI target, mild timing up top (14.5), meth is now in play, still ending runs about 1k early.. should be an easy 550+ on an aggressive 28psi tune.
Full timing and runs will hold strong power in the 7k range.
35psi and 40psi still coming in the next few weeks

FYI - low 60's IDC

boost is coming on much sooner

lost boost signal in the middle of run 53
all uncorrected smoothing 3

[PapaSmurf]

cant wait to see this bitch hit the track.

[doubleflusher]

We'll run next to each other

[dturboman]

Originally Posted by doubleflusher We'll run next to each other

at my rate you will be done before me... 40psi should get us a mid 600 maybe close to 700, then we can bring the nitrous back in

[doubleflusher]

Originally Posted by doubleflusher We'll run next to each other

Holding hands too

[dturboman]

Originally Posted by doubleflusher Holding hands too

In that case I'm there.

[StayBroke]

Holy fuck me man, i just seen this and its insane.

[PapaSmurf]

Originally Posted by dturboman In that case I'm there.

Can I be the pu in the middle?

[dturboman]

hmm started to compare the logs to the runfiles.

run 53 and 58 were lifted around 5100rpm right where boost dropped... I guess the dyno keep reading.

59 was lifted around 6200.

looking like 32-34psi will get us to 600
and hopefully 40ish gets us close to 700

run 53 and 59

[802MS3]

so you got the dnp mani, atp iwg hotside? and 4 nozzles in the IM, and a D10 in the cold pipe? how big is your meth tank lol

[dturboman]

Originally Posted by 802MS3 so you got the dnp mani, atp iwg hotside? and 4 nozzles in the IM, and a D10 in the cold pipe? how big is your meth tank lol

DNP EWG, swapped away from the ATP IWG( welded) when we got rid of the 3576.
looking to add a 2nd wastegate now.

dual d07 in cold pipe, 4 D04 in the manifold. 1 gallon tank.

it actually lasts longer than I expected.

it wont see much street time so I"m not worried about meth tank size.

[Tomas]

Originally Posted by dturboman looking to add a 2nd wastegate now.

As in parallel to the current one? If so why? Boost creep?
Or as in twin scroll where one is on cyl 1/4 and and the other on 2/3?

[dturboman]

Originally Posted by Tomas As in parallel to the current one? If so why? Boost creep? Or as in twin scroll where one is on cyl 1/4 and and the other on 2/3?

little bit of creep issues when trying to get sub 30psi.

[Tomas]

Shit dude. Could have gone twin scroll if you are gonna have 2 wgs.
What size is the current one? Can't u use a Tial 60?

BTW 160K on stock rods and 30+ psi is epic. How did the old pistons look like? any pitting?
I am planning on only doing eagle rods and using Pu pistons. There have been a few piston failures but they are uncommon and probably due to failure of the system somewhere. Not lack of material aptitude.

[dturboman]

Originally Posted by Tomas Shit dude. Could have gone twin scroll if you are gonna have 2 wgs. What size is the current one? Can't u use a Tial 60? BTW 160K on stock rods and 30+ psi is epic. How did the old pistons look like? any pitting? I am planning on only doing eagle rods and using Pu pistons. There have been a few piston failures but they are uncommon and probably due to failure of the system somewhere. Not lack of material aptitude.

I already have 2 gates from previous projects... so I might as well use them, or I would have done a single 60.

the stock pistons looked good, no pitting but 2 were cracked very minor.

[greg08]

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[Downmented]

Hold the Fucking phone, you are doing all this on stock internals? Or am I missing something?

[Snyeed]

You're missing something, did you read the op's first post? built motor more powa.

[dturboman]

Originally Posted by Downmented Hold the Fucking phone, you are doing all this on stock internals? Or am I missing something?

lol no way, previous to this build I was on stock internals but the engine took 160k plus and 30+ psi.

[dturboman]

Little tease of a new run file


and this

[rfinkle2]

LOL!

[atvfreek]

Oh damn! That mani looks bad ass! Looks like you will be good to go for the dyno too.

[dturboman]

Originally Posted by atvfreek Oh damn! That mani looks bad ass! Looks like you will be good to go for the dyno too.

yeah but all it takes is one hiccup lol.

[captain slow]

Clean up that valve cover man! Don't make that beautiful IM sit by that thing!

I wanna see that curve!

[dturboman]

Originally Posted by captain slow Clean up that valve cover man! Don't make that beautiful IM sit by that thing! I wanna see that curve!

dont worry, PC is in the works, alone with braided lines. and Dildo mod

[Voltwings]

is that just a vacuum block you're running your meth through? Im not familiar with the set up, nor those 90* nozzles but its a pretty slick set up man, i'd be interested to see if theres more air or methanol going into your cylinders at any one time haha.

[dturboman]

Originally Posted by Voltwings is that just a vacuum block you're running your meth through? Im not familiar with the set up, nor those 90* nozzles but its a pretty slick set up man, i'd be interested to see if theres more air or methanol going into your cylinders at any one time haha.

its a Devils own distribution block, with Direct port 90* nozzles.

Each cyl will see about 400cc - 475cc of pure meth ( depending on nozzle at the time) @ 250psi.. which is enough to support a 240-300hp engine purely off the meth.

[dpolseno41]

Originally Posted by dturboman its a Devils own distribution block, with Direct port 90* nozzles. Each cyl will see about 400cc - 475cc of pure meth ( depending on nozzle at the time) @ 250psi.. which is enough to support a 240-300hp engine purely off the meth.

I've been mulling this set up for awhile. Obviously the MAP sensor won't pick up the BAT difference correct? The 02 sensors take care of the tuning aspect but meth failure is the scary failure, particularly if only one nozzle fails. Even if you have a pre-throttle body nozzle, would be enough to cover?

[dturboman]

Originally Posted by dpolseno41 I've been mulling this set up for awhile. Obviously the MAP sensor won't pick up the BAT difference correct? The 02 sensors take care of the tuning aspect but meth failure is the scary failure, particularly if only one nozzle fails. Even if you have a pre-throttle body nozzle, would be enough to cover?

I have a D10 pre throttle body as well, I also have 2 fail safes in place in the meth takes a shit.

true one nozzle could fail from a clog, but with good quality filtered meth it won't be much of a concern, the pump dying would be more my worry if anything.

[86azms3]

Originally Posted by dturboman Little tease of a new run file and this

Looks a little over 600 hp?