The FAIL formerly known as "Dano's Drop-in Build"

[Dano]

Originally Posted by silvapain I have a full timing tool kit I can mail down to you. I just need it back in time for Clint's engine build.

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[SPEED6 KILLAH]

Originally Posted by Dano interesting...that's what the Wiseco guy said...care to share that reason with the rest of the class? skirt coating will wear off ?

The reason why is that you won't have that much blow by one and that rings wont flutter around and piston slaping.
Back then they use to gap them .0030 -.0035

As for people who have custom piston its different for you guys. I don't know how many time do I have to tell use. Weisco won't tell you some if they did have the facts dude..

[Dano]

Originally Posted by SPEED6 KILLAH The reason why is that you won't have that much blow by one and that rings wont flutter around and piston slaping. Back then they use to gap them .0030 -.0035 As for people who have custom piston its different for you guys. I don't know how many time do I have to tell use. Weisco won't tell you some if they did have the facts dude..

I agree that the vendor "should" have the facts but a rep at that vendor may not know WTF he is talking about...so that's why I want to get multiple "facts" to determine which is the real deal

The guy I talked to was flipping through pages and said "wait" a couple of times and then finally landed on .0025.

[phate]

Originally Posted by rfinkle2 I want to come down to Ill. and learn how to build an engine for chrissake. All of this TDC pin talk and degree wheels has me feeling a dunce. I'm half tempted to blow my own shit up so I have to learn to build a motor.

Come on out!

Originally Posted by Dano Um a hell to the yes is my answer if timing works out so that you don't need it for a week. I also need to source the timing plate as well. Maybe u have that too? DJ has one too so I should be able to get one somewhere on here. Maybe I'll just buy one IDK. Tappin

Just lemme know. I'm really in no hurry, and you'll only need the wheel and pin for a few minutes out of the whole engine build process. Getting the valve bucket clearance set is far more time consuming. I think we had to pull the cams 3 times to get all of silva's in check, lol. I did the gray 6's just as many times.

[silvapain]

Yeah, it was three times. Dano, here's the valve clearance Excel spreadsheet Clint and I made when doing the bucket clearance. It's a good way to record where you're at and what buckets you need.

[Dano]

Originally Posted by silvapain Yeah, it was three times. Dano, here's the valve clearance Excel spreadsheet Clint and I made when doing the bucket clearance. It's a good way to record where you're at and what buckets you need.

n00b question here but if you just pull the cams and head with zero head work is this necessary? I am beginning to think I may only need to replace the valve seals, which would solve my #1 cylinder intake valve issue.

[silvapain]

Originally Posted by Dano n00b question here but if you just pull the cams and head with zero head work is this necessary? I am beginning to think I may only need to replace the valve seals, which would solve my #1 cylinder intake valve issue.

I don't know. I recommend you measure valve clearance on your car before you pull the cams and head, and see if you're within spec. Theoretically, if you're fine then you will be fine when you put it all back together.

EDIT: If you're going to replace the seals, why not just have a machine shop check out and rebuild the whole head? It's a small price to pay for knowing that the valves, guides, seals, and seats are all good.

[phate]

Originally Posted by Dano n00b question here but if you just pull the cams and head with zero head work is this necessary? I am beginning to think I may only need to replace the valve seals, which would solve my #1 cylinder intake valve issue.

I wouldn't even chance it by not measuring. One of my valves was so far off I doubt it was ever in spec.

[Dano]

Originally Posted by silvapain I don't know. I recommend you measure valve clearance on your car before you pull the cams and head, and see if you're within spec. Theoretically, if you're fine then you will be fine when you put it all back together. EDIT: If you're going to replace the seals, why not just have a machine shop check out and rebuild the whole head? It's a small price to pay for knowing that the valves, guides, seals, and seats are all good.

agreed. I indirectly know of two shops here one of which i wouldn't use and the other one is backed up for 4-6 weeks...lol

I am sure there are other around but...well I am not a very trusting person and just because a guy has a machine shop and says he can do the work doesn't mean chit in my book

now what I would consider doing is sending my head up to Phate's or your machine shop to have the head work done. Do you have a feel for their backlog?

edit: I will check the clearances before I pull my head along with leakdown tests on 3 of the 4 cylinders to check the seats. #3 is way too leaky to test the seats that way.

[silvapain]

Originally Posted by Dano agreed. I indirectly know of two shops here one of which i wouldn't use and the other one is backed up for 4-6 weeks...lol I am sure there are other around but...well I am not a very trusting person and just because a guy has a machine shop and says he can do the work doesn't mean chit in my book now what I would consider doing is sending my head up to Phate's or your machine shop to have the head work done. Do you have a feel for their backlog? edit: I will check the clearances before I pull my head along with leakdown tests on 3 of the 4 cylinders to check the seats. #3 is way too leaky to test the seats that way.

Clint and I use the same machine shop. Call Kirk at G&G Machine Shop 1-217-892-9696 and tell him Clint & Dan told you to call him.

[GLORIFIEDBOZO]

Originally Posted by Dano I haven't put a motor together since my 302 back ...well in the early 80's for god sake...lol I have access to quite a bit of cool measuring equip from my rat scoobie buddy who is about to build his motor such as a bore gauge, digital calipers, mic, fixed hones, etc. so I should be prepared.

OMG! I didn't realize you were old!

I don't suppose your scooby buddy's name is Brian?

Can't wait to see the results of this!

[MS3-a(sore)ASS-rex]

Bump.

Ya done yet?

[Dano]

haha not yet... hope to start the 1st or 2nd week of November.

[MS3-a(sore)ASS-rex]

Originally Posted by Dano haha not yet... hope to start the 1st or 2nd week of November.

Y U WAIT SO LONG??!?!!?

[Dano]

haha chit takes time...

I don't currently have an oil pressure gauge and feel that is a must before building so I need to get that done and measure existing pressure to compare to afterward. Unfortunately, I don't take the easy way to any end. I want to measure turbo oil feed outlet pressure along with having the ability to restrict it and still measure block pressure.

This is where I am at so far and just found an inline 12mm to -4an restrictor [after the below image was created] and now need to find a restrictor banjo bolt or alter that part of the equation.

so it looks a lil something like this.



Still waiting to acquire the below items:

ARP 87.5mm ring compressor
all the fittings/lines outlined above
Prosport Halo gauges [boost, oil pressure, EGT]
rods [here on Monday]
Mazda OEM stuff [Monday]
line up machine shop time for head work

and about 99 other things I haven't thought of yet

[atvfreek]

Originally Posted by MS3-a(sore)ASS-rex Y U WAIT SO LONG??!?!!?

Because he is patient...... Unlike us younger grasshoppers. lol

[Dano]

hahaha

nah I'm not really patient at all but only want to do this once and have the car down as little as possible. If I didn't/don't need any machine work on the head this will be a 4-5 day affair and be done...hopefully...lol

if I need machine work the schedule is blown all to hell and it will be a month build.

[rfinkle2]

How old is the Dano?
Now I'm curious. LOL

[Dano]

old enough to be your father I bet

I think I am up there with kritz and predapio...maybe even forzda 1

[MS3-a(sore)ASS-rex]

For comparisons sake, my father just turned 49. I'm 23. Lol

[rfinkle2]

Originally Posted by Dano old enough to be your father I bet I think I am up there with kritz and predapio...maybe even forzda 1

Lol. You may be a touch older than me but I'll be 35 Halloween, so more like my older brother rather than father / son.

[Tokay444]

So old he farts dust.

[Dano]

Originally Posted by MS3-a(sore)ASS-rex For comparisons sake, my father just turned 49. I'm 23. Lol

I'll be 48 in Jan....so it is sad to lose Rob as a possible son so fast.

[Tokay444]

pretty sure i was knocking chics up at 14.
just sayin'.

[MS3-a(sore)ASS-rex]

Originally Posted by Dano I'll be 48 in Jan....so it is sad to lose Rob as a possible son so fast.

Oh hai dad hahahaha

[silvapain]

Age smage. I'm 33 but I act like I'm 12.


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[Tomas]

I am 36 and have the penis of a 5 year old.

[Dano]

aaaaaaaand page 2 the penis appears...lol

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by Tokay444 pretty sure i was knocking chics up at 14. just sayin'.

You part Jamaican?


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[RichieRichness]

Good luck with the build Dano. This should be exciting.

[Tokay444]

No, but I banged a white Jamaican.

[GLORIFIEDBOZO]

Originally Posted by rfinkle2 Lol. You may be a touch older than me but I'll be 35 Halloween, so more like my older brother rather than father / son.

Originally Posted by Tomas I am 36 and have the penis of a 5 year old.

Damn, I put both of you at Dano's age, and Dano at y'alls age.

Originally Posted by silvapain Age smage. I'm 33 but I act like I'm 12.

This....

[MS3-a(sore)ASS-rex]

Literally just realized I'm the young boy that hangs out with older men that he met on the Internet...omg

[rfinkle2]

Originally Posted by MS3-a(sore)ASS-rex Literally just realized I'm the young boy that hangs out with older men that he met on the Internet...omg

Just don't join the Boy Scouts or go to church and you'll be fine.

Dano, I'm done jacking up your thread... Sorry for the tangent.

[Dano]

Originally Posted by rfinkle2 Just don't join the Boy Scouts or go to church and you'll be fine. Dano, I'm done jacking up your thread... Sorry for the tangent.

it matters not young Rob....my plan will be to continually update OP with pertinent information so the rest of the thread can have some fun

[Dano]

Originally Posted by GLORIFIEDBOZO Damn, I put both of you at Dano's age, and Dano at y'alls age. This....

I do look very young for my age and could easily pass for 35 on looks and ....yes 16 on maturity.

[TiGraySpeed6]

thank goodness....
thought I was the old guy hanging out with kids....
47 here


and, it's friday before EpisodeM and I'm in Orlando... Party on Garth...

[cld12pk2go]

So back on topic...

My dumbass question of the day is, "WTF does PWC stand for"?

I am sure I should remember this, but it has been 7 years since I built my Ford 302...

[rfinkle2]

Originally Posted by cld12pk2go So back on topic... My dumbass question of the day is, "WTF does PWC stand for"? I am sure I should remember this, but it has been 7 years since I built my Ford 302...

I had to google it as well. Piston To Wall clearance.

[silvapain]

Originally Posted by rfinkle2 Piston To Wall clearance.

This.


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