register gallery
 

Go Back   Mazdaspeed Forums > Mazdaspeed Forums Sponsors > FREEKTUNE

FREEKTUNE Freektune is the leader in Mazdaspeed tuning. Having tuned over 300 individual Mazdaspeeds around the world, we can deliver the highest quality of engine tuning for your vehicle. We specialize in driveability, engine performance, engine building/repair, and most of all customer service.


Welcome to Mazdaspeed Forums .

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact contact us.

*When you join MSF as a registered user, there will be No Ads.

*Registered Members get access to the Off Topic Area of the Forum

*Registered Members have an opportunity to upgrade their accounts to VIP, which brings a host of goddies for supporting MSF such as Raffles, Additional Forum Access, More PM Storage, The ability to upload more Images and many other enhancements.

*Registered members also get access to the live chat box!
Like Tree33Likes
Reply
 
Bookmark and Share LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 Old 10-14-2014, 04:28 PM   #41
jbr makes fall-a-parts.
 
Tokay444's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Cambridge Ontario Canada
Posts: 13,162   (View Stats)
iTrader: (11)
Rep Power: 13525
Tokay444 is the leader of the worldTokay444 is the leader of the worldTokay444 is the leader of the worldTokay444 is the leader of the worldTokay444 is the leader of the worldTokay444 is the leader of the worldTokay444 is the leader of the worldTokay444 is the leader of the worldTokay444 is the leader of the worldTokay444 is the leader of the worldTokay444 is the leader of the world
Thanks: 25,744
Thanked 26,387 Times in 7,871 Posts
Groans: 793
Groaned at 496 Times in 321 Posts
Not Ranked  0 score     
Default

It's always better to build for more power than you'll ever make.
__________________



Inb4 85% silicone core. It's better than aluminum.
What's you buddy's ex wife trap?
I <3 SP63, but that port job though... "The coolant must be evaporating." Bye Felicia
"Exclusivity" - CP-enis
Demodded.
The Seals
Tokay444 is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 7 Users Say Thank You to Tokay444 For This Useful Post:
chaser27 (10-14-2014), Easter Bunny (10-14-2014), King Scumbag (03-11-2015), MattyP617 (10-17-2014), Mauro_Penguin (10-16-2014), rfinkle2 (10-15-2014), shaneski (10-16-2014)
 Old 10-14-2014, 04:29 PM   #42
 
chaser27's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Chattanooga, TN
Posts: 1,276   (View Stats)
iTrader: (0)
Rep Power: 0
chaser27 is the leader of the worldchaser27 is the leader of the worldchaser27 is the leader of the worldchaser27 is the leader of the worldchaser27 is the leader of the worldchaser27 is the leader of the worldchaser27 is the leader of the worldchaser27 is the leader of the worldchaser27 is the leader of the worldchaser27 is the leader of the worldchaser27 is the leader of the world
Thanks: 6,760
Thanked 1,819 Times in 633 Posts
Groans: 42
Groaned at 16 Times in 12 Posts
Not Ranked  0 score     
Default

Originally Posted by VegasChef View Post
I would love to see an internals section on here when we are talking about HP numbers.

What internals are necessary for what hp levels, obviously i know anything past 400 will need a built motor but how heavily built? If I want 500 vs 800 my internal set up will be different.

At what point in time is head work necessary?
H beam or I beam? upgraded head studs and not just some regular arp but the upgraded one?
When is boring necessary?
What about pistons ad the correct piston choice for your HP levels?

Possibly even include what meth kit or aux fueling options and at what HP level you need to look into this. -granted there is a note on the file it might be cool to see when you actually need it and how much is needed. The 800hp guys probably aren't just on some PI set up

I'm looking to build my motor in the next year or so and all of these questions have popped up. Do I just go balls to the wall or at what point are the upgrades unnecessary for my HP numbers
It would be nice to have a list somewhere of part numbers of stuff you need for x amount of hp, but there are far too many variables that go into it. Climate, goals, power curve, fuel, etc. Finding what you need in a table that large would be harder than just searching on MSF. Even 300hp is going to take different mods for different people.
__________________
Coming at ya with all 297/359

POWER: HTP 3" intake, Corksport BPV, Treadstone FMIC, Cobb EBCS, Autotech HPFP, CPE full catless DP
ECU: self-tuned
HANDLING: JBR RSB (Middle Setting)
RICE: Stickers and stuff, mudflaps, floormats, Evil M, etc.
RADAR: Passport Escort 9500ci
chaser27 is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to chaser27 For This Useful Post:
BackRoads (10-14-2014), Cheapspeed (10-14-2014), WetzMS3 (10-14-2014)
 Old 10-14-2014, 06:48 PM   #43
jbr makes fall-a-parts.
 
Tokay444's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Cambridge Ontario Canada
Posts: 13,162   (View Stats)
iTrader: (11)
Rep Power: 13525
Tokay444 is the leader of the worldTokay444 is the leader of the worldTokay444 is the leader of the worldTokay444 is the leader of the worldTokay444 is the leader of the worldTokay444 is the leader of the worldTokay444 is the leader of the worldTokay444 is the leader of the worldTokay444 is the leader of the worldTokay444 is the leader of the worldTokay444 is the leader of the world
Thanks: 25,744
Thanked 26,387 Times in 7,871 Posts
Groans: 793
Groaned at 496 Times in 321 Posts
Not Ranked  0 score     
Default

Building your car isn't something that should be spoon fed to you.
Gr8Speed and Justin@Freektune like this.
__________________



Inb4 85% silicone core. It's better than aluminum.
What's you buddy's ex wife trap?
I <3 SP63, but that port job though... "The coolant must be evaporating." Bye Felicia
"Exclusivity" - CP-enis
Demodded.
The Seals
Tokay444 is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 13 Users Say Thank You to Tokay444 For This Useful Post:
Awal (04-28-2015), BackRoads (10-14-2014), chaser27 (10-14-2014), Easter Bunny (10-14-2014), Gr8Speed (10-14-2014), IlleztImportz (12-20-2014), jdmage_mx5 (10-14-2014), Justin@Freektune (10-14-2014), Mauro_Penguin (10-16-2014), MD1032 (03-12-2015), shaneski (10-15-2014), taf0422 (10-14-2014), WetzMS3 (10-14-2014)
 Old 10-14-2014, 06:56 PM   #44
 
VegasChef's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 66   (View Stats)
iTrader: (0)
Rep Power: 0
VegasChef has a reputation beyond reputeVegasChef has a reputation beyond reputeVegasChef has a reputation beyond reputeVegasChef has a reputation beyond reputeVegasChef has a reputation beyond reputeVegasChef has a reputation beyond reputeVegasChef has a reputation beyond reputeVegasChef has a reputation beyond reputeVegasChef has a reputation beyond reputeVegasChef has a reputation beyond reputeVegasChef has a reputation beyond repute
Thanks: 31
Thanked 97 Times in 28 Posts
Groans: 0
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
Not Ranked  0 score     
Default

Granted I'm not trying to be spoon fed, but it seems with the list we are pulling the plane out of the hangar and lining it up on the runway for people.

I do my research and read a ton about stuff. If the list is being made why not include internals is all I'm saying.
__________________
06 MS6 Velocity Red Mica - PurePerformanceTune E33 299/360 & Still Growing
Engine
E85 // HTP 3.5" Intake // Autotech HPFP // JBR OCC // JBR 51R // CX FMIC // Custom 3" Test Pipe // Custom 3" Catback // GFB BOV 100% VTA // Snow Perf Stg2 WMI // Brent Tune Coolant Reroute //
Suspension
ST Coilovers (KWV1) // SPC Ball Joints // Whiteline RSB // AWR Adjustable Endlinks //
Mounts
JBR RMM 80D // JBR PMM 80D // JBR TMM 80D // Corksport RDM // TurbineTech FDM //
Wheels&Tires
Chrome Stock Speed6 Rims // NT05 (daily because IDGAF) //
VegasChef is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to VegasChef For This Useful Post:
Mauro_Penguin (10-16-2014)
 Old 10-14-2014, 07:05 PM   #45
 
MazdaBoy2.3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Clifton Springs NY
Posts: 5,797   (View Stats)
iTrader: (1)
Rep Power: 0
MazdaBoy2.3 is the leader of the worldMazdaBoy2.3 is the leader of the worldMazdaBoy2.3 is the leader of the worldMazdaBoy2.3 is the leader of the worldMazdaBoy2.3 is the leader of the worldMazdaBoy2.3 is the leader of the worldMazdaBoy2.3 is the leader of the worldMazdaBoy2.3 is the leader of the worldMazdaBoy2.3 is the leader of the worldMazdaBoy2.3 is the leader of the worldMazdaBoy2.3 is the leader of the world
Thanks: 3,398
Thanked 3,997 Times in 1,975 Posts
Groans: 51
Groaned at 29 Times in 22 Posts
Not Ranked  0 score     
Default

Originally Posted by VegasChef View Post
Granted I'm not trying to be spoon fed, but it seems with the list we are pulling the plane out of the hangar and lining it up on the runway for people.

I do my research and read a ton about stuff. If the list is being made why not include internals is all I'm saying.
Rob has been kind enough to generate this list, yet people still aren't happy....

Create and edit your own spreadsheet that contains this info. I'm sure people will leave feedback for you to fill it with. I bet you will be surprised how much time this takes.
Justin@Freektune likes this.
__________________
I used to go zoom zoom with my speed....

Now i drive a slow stockish Focus ST...
MazdaBoy2.3 is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to MazdaBoy2.3 For This Useful Post:
Easter Bunny (10-14-2014), Justin@Freektune (10-15-2014), Mauro_Penguin (10-16-2014)
 Old 10-14-2014, 07:18 PM   #46
jbr makes fall-a-parts.
 
Tokay444's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Cambridge Ontario Canada
Posts: 13,162   (View Stats)
iTrader: (11)
Rep Power: 13525
Tokay444 is the leader of the worldTokay444 is the leader of the worldTokay444 is the leader of the worldTokay444 is the leader of the worldTokay444 is the leader of the worldTokay444 is the leader of the worldTokay444 is the leader of the worldTokay444 is the leader of the worldTokay444 is the leader of the worldTokay444 is the leader of the worldTokay444 is the leader of the world
Thanks: 25,744
Thanked 26,387 Times in 7,871 Posts
Groans: 793
Groaned at 496 Times in 321 Posts
Not Ranked  0 score     
Default

Make sure to include ring gaps, piston to wall clearances, and bearing clearances for all the relative hp levels while you're at it.
__________________



Inb4 85% silicone core. It's better than aluminum.
What's you buddy's ex wife trap?
I <3 SP63, but that port job though... "The coolant must be evaporating." Bye Felicia
"Exclusivity" - CP-enis
Demodded.
The Seals
Tokay444 is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 6 Users Say Thank You to Tokay444 For This Useful Post:
chaser27 (10-14-2014), Easter Bunny (10-14-2014), Justin@Freektune (10-15-2014), Mauro_Penguin (10-16-2014), SarcasticOne (10-14-2014), WetzMS3 (10-14-2014)
 Old 10-14-2014, 07:59 PM   #47
 
VegasChef's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 66   (View Stats)
iTrader: (0)
Rep Power: 0
VegasChef has a reputation beyond reputeVegasChef has a reputation beyond reputeVegasChef has a reputation beyond reputeVegasChef has a reputation beyond reputeVegasChef has a reputation beyond reputeVegasChef has a reputation beyond reputeVegasChef has a reputation beyond reputeVegasChef has a reputation beyond reputeVegasChef has a reputation beyond reputeVegasChef has a reputation beyond reputeVegasChef has a reputation beyond repute
Thanks: 31
Thanked 97 Times in 28 Posts
Groans: 0
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
Not Ranked  0 score     
Default

Originally Posted by MazdaBoy2.3 View Post
Rob has been kind enough to generate this list, yet people still aren't happy....

Create and edit your own spreadsheet that contains this info. I'm sure people will leave feedback for you to fill it with. I bet you will be surprised how much time this takes.
Dude there is no point in time where I was discounting Robs work to put this spreadsheet together. I think its awesome and a great tool for people to use as a reference.

I thought the idea was to build the list and add ideas for it. If that's not the case then ill keep to myself...Just trying to make some suggestions for an information database.

I realize there is a lot more that goes into being built but when you have a list that is telling you requirements of being 500hp plus it would be cool to include this info.

Correct me if I am wrong. Im all about sharing knowledge and being knowledgeable at the same time. I knew nothing of this platform when I got my car over a year ago and it has been a long road full of alot of trial and error. My knowledge base is still growing every day.

I would be more than happy to create/provide input on a list for the community because that's what we are..
__________________
06 MS6 Velocity Red Mica - PurePerformanceTune E33 299/360 & Still Growing
Engine
E85 // HTP 3.5" Intake // Autotech HPFP // JBR OCC // JBR 51R // CX FMIC // Custom 3" Test Pipe // Custom 3" Catback // GFB BOV 100% VTA // Snow Perf Stg2 WMI // Brent Tune Coolant Reroute //
Suspension
ST Coilovers (KWV1) // SPC Ball Joints // Whiteline RSB // AWR Adjustable Endlinks //
Mounts
JBR RMM 80D // JBR PMM 80D // JBR TMM 80D // Corksport RDM // TurbineTech FDM //
Wheels&Tires
Chrome Stock Speed6 Rims // NT05 (daily because IDGAF) //
VegasChef is offline   Reply With Quote
 Old 10-14-2014, 08:03 PM   #48
 
kylejenson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Yelm, WA
Posts: 140   (View Stats)
iTrader: (1)
Rep Power: 0
kylejenson has a brilliant futurekylejenson has a brilliant futurekylejenson has a brilliant futurekylejenson has a brilliant futurekylejenson has a brilliant futurekylejenson has a brilliant futurekylejenson has a brilliant futurekylejenson has a brilliant futurekylejenson has a brilliant futurekylejenson has a brilliant futurekylejenson has a brilliant future
Thanks: 39
Thanked 31 Times in 25 Posts
Groans: 0
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
Not Ranked  0 score     
Default

I haven't viewed the file yet because I'm on my phone, but I'm stoked to see it. Sounds like a good compilation of info!
And not that anyone should be expected to compile info on building a motor, but a lot of what I've read hasn't informed me (a huge noob) when or why, but just what they are [using].
I guess it'll just take a shit load of time sifting through the stuff I already know.

Last edited by kylejenson; 10-14-2014 at 08:27 PM. Reason: MSF Database - Automerged Doublepost
kylejenson is offline   Reply With Quote
 Old 10-14-2014, 08:44 PM   #49
 
VegasChef's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 66   (View Stats)
iTrader: (0)
Rep Power: 0
VegasChef has a reputation beyond reputeVegasChef has a reputation beyond reputeVegasChef has a reputation beyond reputeVegasChef has a reputation beyond reputeVegasChef has a reputation beyond reputeVegasChef has a reputation beyond reputeVegasChef has a reputation beyond reputeVegasChef has a reputation beyond reputeVegasChef has a reputation beyond reputeVegasChef has a reputation beyond reputeVegasChef has a reputation beyond repute
Thanks: 31
Thanked 97 Times in 28 Posts
Groans: 0
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
Not Ranked  0 score     
Default

@rfinkle2

Sence I got so much flack for asking and not contributing I have taken your list and modified it to add in the engine internals for what I know is available from going through edge/the SP63 website. I did not include bearings. It is formatted for you to use as you would like, I can remove it if you would like as well but I thought I would go through and do some of the work for you.

Im not an expert and could not comment on recommendations for certain parts and I hope that you would be-able to.
Attached Files
File Type: xlsx mod recommendations_v8.5.xlsx (41.5 KB, 23 views)
__________________
06 MS6 Velocity Red Mica - PurePerformanceTune E33 299/360 & Still Growing
Engine
E85 // HTP 3.5" Intake // Autotech HPFP // JBR OCC // JBR 51R // CX FMIC // Custom 3" Test Pipe // Custom 3" Catback // GFB BOV 100% VTA // Snow Perf Stg2 WMI // Brent Tune Coolant Reroute //
Suspension
ST Coilovers (KWV1) // SPC Ball Joints // Whiteline RSB // AWR Adjustable Endlinks //
Mounts
JBR RMM 80D // JBR PMM 80D // JBR TMM 80D // Corksport RDM // TurbineTech FDM //
Wheels&Tires
Chrome Stock Speed6 Rims // NT05 (daily because IDGAF) //
VegasChef is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to VegasChef For This Useful Post:
Ozynigma (10-15-2014)
 Old 10-15-2014, 12:08 AM   #50
 
Ozynigma's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Brisbane, QLD, Australia
Posts: 736   (View Stats)
iTrader: (0)
Rep Power: 0
Ozynigma is the leader of the worldOzynigma is the leader of the worldOzynigma is the leader of the worldOzynigma is the leader of the worldOzynigma is the leader of the worldOzynigma is the leader of the worldOzynigma is the leader of the worldOzynigma is the leader of the worldOzynigma is the leader of the worldOzynigma is the leader of the worldOzynigma is the leader of the world
Thanks: 224
Thanked 456 Times in 258 Posts
Groans: 1
Groaned at 2 Times in 2 Posts
Not Ranked  0 score     
Default

Originally Posted by VegasChef View Post
@rfinkle2

Sence I got so much flack for asking and not contributing I have taken your list and modified it to add in the engine internals for what I know is available from going through edge/the SP63 website. I did not include bearings. It is formatted for you to use as you would like, I can remove it if you would like as well but I thought I would go through and do some of the work for you.

Im not an expert and could not comment on recommendations for certain parts and I hope that you would be-able to.
Thanks for the spoon-feeding

This spreadsheet could turn into a cook book for Mazda DISI horsepower. Just follow the recipe hehehe
rfinkle2 likes this.
__________________
CX7 - The younger, taller and sexier replacement for the MS6.
2007 CX7 2.3 DISI AWD | Forged Build | Mahle Pistons | Molnar Rods | APR studs | Corksport Turbo @25psi | ETS TMIC | Cobb XLE BOV | CS HPFP | JBR 3.5" WPI | Cooling Mist WMI | CS OCC | CX9 20x7.5's | CX9 Brakes | Pedders Lowered 40mm | VersaTuned by Stratified
Ozynigma is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Ozynigma For This Useful Post:
Mauro_Penguin (10-16-2014), rfinkle2 (10-15-2014)
 Old 10-15-2014, 07:11 AM   #51
Feline Führer
 
neganox's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Jacksonville, FL
Posts: 1,790   (View Stats)
iTrader: (2)
Rep Power: 2270
neganox is the leader of the worldneganox is the leader of the worldneganox is the leader of the worldneganox is the leader of the worldneganox is the leader of the worldneganox is the leader of the worldneganox is the leader of the worldneganox is the leader of the worldneganox is the leader of the worldneganox is the leader of the worldneganox is the leader of the world
Thanks: 1,422
Thanked 4,356 Times in 1,252 Posts
Groans: 49
Groaned at 5 Times in 5 Posts
Not Ranked  0 score     
Default

Sooo according this to chart, @Easter Bunny; mouth hugs will clear up this knock threshold I'm hitting.


My body is ready.
rfinkle2 likes this.
neganox is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to neganox For This Useful Post:
Easter Bunny (10-16-2014), Mauro_Penguin (10-16-2014), rfinkle2 (10-15-2014), WetzMS3 (10-15-2014)
 Old 10-15-2014, 11:10 AM   #52
Raider is mah Homie
 
Easter Bunny's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Towson, Maryland
Posts: 6,460   (View Stats)
iTrader: (0)
Rep Power: 7511
Easter Bunny is the leader of the worldEaster Bunny is the leader of the worldEaster Bunny is the leader of the worldEaster Bunny is the leader of the worldEaster Bunny is the leader of the worldEaster Bunny is the leader of the worldEaster Bunny is the leader of the worldEaster Bunny is the leader of the worldEaster Bunny is the leader of the worldEaster Bunny is the leader of the worldEaster Bunny is the leader of the world
Thanks: 54,831
Thanked 14,694 Times in 4,613 Posts
Groans: 2,978
Groaned at 94 Times in 82 Posts
Not Ranked  0 score     
Default

@rfinkle2; thanks for adding me to the spreadsheet now guys are lining up to blow me.
rfinkle2 and WetzMS3 like this.
__________________

I hugged rfinkle2
Easter Bunny is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to Easter Bunny For This Useful Post:
chaser27 (10-15-2014), neganox (10-15-2014), rfinkle2 (10-15-2014), WetzMS3 (10-15-2014)
 Old 10-15-2014, 08:41 PM   #53
 
HawkeyeGeoff's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Waterford, MI - America's High Five
Posts: 3,036   (View Stats)
iTrader: (3)
Rep Power: 0
HawkeyeGeoff is the leader of the worldHawkeyeGeoff is the leader of the worldHawkeyeGeoff is the leader of the worldHawkeyeGeoff is the leader of the worldHawkeyeGeoff is the leader of the worldHawkeyeGeoff is the leader of the worldHawkeyeGeoff is the leader of the worldHawkeyeGeoff is the leader of the worldHawkeyeGeoff is the leader of the worldHawkeyeGeoff is the leader of the worldHawkeyeGeoff is the leader of the world
Thanks: 2,451
Thanked 2,707 Times in 1,397 Posts
Groans: 13
Groaned at 23 Times in 13 Posts
Not Ranked  0 score     
Default

It's like what you've been pounding into my head has been put on paper....without you pounding your head agaisnt your keyboard.

Awesome write up! Also....FIRST POST BACK!
__________________
Silver 2007 Speed3 GT
Xona Rotor 6156, Port Injection w/ E85...Bunch of other stuff. I make some power.
Titanium Grey Mazdaspeed6 GTX3071, DD
HawkeyeGeoff is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to HawkeyeGeoff For This Useful Post:
Mauro_Penguin (10-16-2014), Tokay444 (10-16-2014)
 Old 10-16-2014, 12:38 AM   #54
 
shaneski's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 493   (View Stats)
iTrader: (0)
Rep Power: 0
shaneski is the leader of the worldshaneski is the leader of the worldshaneski is the leader of the worldshaneski is the leader of the worldshaneski is the leader of the worldshaneski is the leader of the worldshaneski is the leader of the worldshaneski is the leader of the worldshaneski is the leader of the worldshaneski is the leader of the worldshaneski is the leader of the world
Thanks: 242
Thanked 373 Times in 203 Posts
Groans: 0
Groaned at 21 Times in 7 Posts
Not Ranked  0 score     
Default

Originally Posted by VegasChef View Post
@rfinkle2

Sence I got so much flack for asking and not contributing I have taken your list and modified it to add in the engine internals for what I know is available from going through edge/the SP63 website. I did not include bearings. It is formatted for you to use as you would like, I can remove it if you would like as well but I thought I would go through and do some of the work for you.

Im not an expert and could not comment on recommendations for certain parts and I hope that you would be-able to.
I think Robs idea is listing what is tried and tested, just adding parts that advertise will make fast car but possibly doesn't do what it advertised just gets the whole thing out of hand.
__________________
Gen 2 2012 - Precision 6062 Turbo - CPE Exhaust Mani - PTE 46mm EWG - 2NV Industries built Forged bottom end - PNP Head - JMF V2 Intake Mani- Custom DP UR Cat Back - HTP 4 inch intake - TR8 FMIC - Custom FREEKTUNE METH Port Injection - Cobb 3 port EBC- Autotech internals - FREEKTUNED.
shaneski is offline   Reply With Quote
 Old 10-16-2014, 05:00 AM   #55

 
Ziggo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Melissa, TX
Posts: 3,843   (View Stats)
iTrader: (6)
Rep Power: 5328
Ziggo is the leader of the worldZiggo is the leader of the worldZiggo is the leader of the worldZiggo is the leader of the worldZiggo is the leader of the worldZiggo is the leader of the worldZiggo is the leader of the worldZiggo is the leader of the worldZiggo is the leader of the worldZiggo is the leader of the worldZiggo is the leader of the world
Thanks: 27,149
Thanked 10,245 Times in 2,732 Posts
Groans: 6
Groaned at 16 Times in 15 Posts
Not Ranked  0 score     
Default

Looks pretty good, but is missing fueling information. Ie for 350/400 you are going to need a meth kit or to run E85, at above 400 if you are not doing a very heavy meth spray you are going to need a 5th port or PI setup.
__________________
Ask Me About My:
BNR S3 Turbo \ JBR WP 3.5" Intake \ COBB FMIC \ DNP EX MANI \ COBB DP \ MSCBE \ CPE HPFP
CPE Injector Seals \ JBR Thermal Intake & Throttle Body Gaskets \ BOZO EGR Delete
BC Coilovers (-2.5º F, -1º R) \ Saitek Front Endlinks \ SPC Rear Camber Arms \ Hotchkis FSB & RSB
JBR 88 Duro RMM TMM PMM \ COBB AP (Self Tuned) \ EGT \ Oil Pres \ Oil Temp \ DashHawk
Ziggo is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to Ziggo For This Useful Post:
Cheapspeed (10-16-2014), Easter Bunny (10-16-2014), Mauro_Penguin (10-16-2014)
 Old 10-16-2014, 03:47 PM   #56
 
rfinkle2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Mullica Hill, NJ 08062
Posts: 14,536   (View Stats)
iTrader: (13)
Rep Power: 0
rfinkle2 is the leader of the worldrfinkle2 is the leader of the worldrfinkle2 is the leader of the worldrfinkle2 is the leader of the worldrfinkle2 is the leader of the worldrfinkle2 is the leader of the worldrfinkle2 is the leader of the worldrfinkle2 is the leader of the worldrfinkle2 is the leader of the worldrfinkle2 is the leader of the worldrfinkle2 is the leader of the world
Thanks: 52,496
Thanked 33,219 Times in 10,050 Posts
Groans: 298
Groaned at 292 Times in 196 Posts
(Thread Starter)
Not Ranked  0 score     
Default

Originally Posted by VegasChef View Post
I would love to see an internals section on here when we are talking about HP numbers.

What internals are necessary for what hp levels, obviously i know anything past 400 will need a built motor but how heavily built? If I want 500 vs 800 my internal set up will be different.

At what point in time is head work necessary?
H beam or I beam? upgraded head studs and not just some regular arp but the upgraded one?
When is boring necessary?
What about pistons ad the correct piston choice for your HP levels?

Possibly even include what meth kit or aux fueling options and at what HP level you need to look into this. -granted there is a note on the file it might be cool to see when you actually need it and how much is needed. The 800hp guys probably aren't just on some PI set up

I'm looking to build my motor in the next year or so and all of these questions have popped up. Do I just go balls to the wall or at what point are the upgrades unnecessary for my HP numbers
Originally Posted by Ziggo View Post
Looks pretty good, but is missing fueling information. Ie for 350/400 you are going to need a meth kit or to run E85, at above 400 if you are not doing a very heavy meth spray you are going to need a 5th port or PI setup.
I had all of that in an earlier version, but was teasing the Easter Bunny and must have overwrote it. LOL
Easter Bunny likes this.
rfinkle2 is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to rfinkle2 For This Useful Post:
Easter Bunny (10-16-2014)
 Old 10-16-2014, 04:40 PM   #57
Raider is mah Homie
 
Easter Bunny's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Towson, Maryland
Posts: 6,460   (View Stats)
iTrader: (0)
Rep Power: 7511
Easter Bunny is the leader of the worldEaster Bunny is the leader of the worldEaster Bunny is the leader of the worldEaster Bunny is the leader of the worldEaster Bunny is the leader of the worldEaster Bunny is the leader of the worldEaster Bunny is the leader of the worldEaster Bunny is the leader of the worldEaster Bunny is the leader of the worldEaster Bunny is the leader of the worldEaster Bunny is the leader of the world
Thanks: 54,831
Thanked 14,694 Times in 4,613 Posts
Groans: 2,978
Groaned at 94 Times in 82 Posts
Not Ranked  0 score     
Default

*overwritten.
rfinkle2 likes this.
__________________

I hugged rfinkle2
Easter Bunny is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Easter Bunny For This Useful Post:
rfinkle2 (10-16-2014)
 Old 10-16-2014, 04:41 PM   #58
 
BackRoads's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Midwest
Posts: 575   (View Stats)
iTrader: (2)
Rep Power: 293
BackRoads is the leader of the worldBackRoads is the leader of the worldBackRoads is the leader of the worldBackRoads is the leader of the worldBackRoads is the leader of the worldBackRoads is the leader of the worldBackRoads is the leader of the worldBackRoads is the leader of the worldBackRoads is the leader of the worldBackRoads is the leader of the worldBackRoads is the leader of the world
Thanks: 477
Thanked 311 Times in 189 Posts
Groans: 0
Groaned at 1 Time in 1 Post
Not Ranked  0 score     
Default

Beware the Easter Bunny.
__________________
2007 Sunlight Silver MazdaSpeed3 Sport | BNR S3v2 | Autotech Internals | Cobb TIH | 3BAR MAP Sensor | Denso itv-22's | MSCAI | ETS 3.5" TMIC | Synchronic DV | Stratified EBCS | Guardian Angel | UR Test Pipe | Cobb AP | Koni Yellows | JBR RMM | CORN YEAH! | 265,000m | Tuned by STRATIFIED!!!
To install: CPE SafeSeals
2012 Velocity Red MazdaSpeed3 w/Tech | Autotech Internals | Sure Aeros V2 | 98,000m
BackRoads is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to BackRoads For This Useful Post:
Easter Bunny (10-16-2014), Justin@Freektune (10-17-2014), rfinkle2 (10-16-2014)
 Old 10-16-2014, 04:47 PM   #59
 
rfinkle2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Mullica Hill, NJ 08062
Posts: 14,536   (View Stats)
iTrader: (13)
Rep Power: 0
rfinkle2 is the leader of the worldrfinkle2 is the leader of the worldrfinkle2 is the leader of the worldrfinkle2 is the leader of the worldrfinkle2 is the leader of the worldrfinkle2 is the leader of the worldrfinkle2 is the leader of the worldrfinkle2 is the leader of the worldrfinkle2 is the leader of the worldrfinkle2 is the leader of the worldrfinkle2 is the leader of the world
Thanks: 52,496
Thanked 33,219 Times in 10,050 Posts
Groans: 298
Groaned at 292 Times in 196 Posts
(Thread Starter)
Not Ranked  0 score     
Default

Originally Posted by Easter Bunny View Post
*overwritten.
LOL. ^ overwritten. Thank you Easter Bunny.

Last edited by rfinkle2; 10-17-2014 at 05:40 AM.
rfinkle2 is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to rfinkle2 For This Useful Post:
Easter Bunny (10-16-2014), Justin@Freektune (10-17-2014)
 Old 11-21-2014, 02:02 PM   #60
 
Cheapspeed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: McKinney, TX
Posts: 4,481   (View Stats)
iTrader: (1)
Rep Power: 0
Cheapspeed is the leader of the worldCheapspeed is the leader of the worldCheapspeed is the leader of the worldCheapspeed is the leader of the worldCheapspeed is the leader of the worldCheapspeed is the leader of the worldCheapspeed is the leader of the worldCheapspeed is the leader of the worldCheapspeed is the leader of the worldCheapspeed is the leader of the worldCheapspeed is the leader of the world
Thanks: 2,778
Thanked 2,652 Times in 1,429 Posts
Groans: 29
Groaned at 18 Times in 17 Posts
Not Ranked  0 score     
Default

I posted this in Edge's BT question thread but got no responses.

I did a search and didn't find much on it, besides a speed6 that went on a 3071 EWG w/stock cat back and upgraded TMIC and still made like 390whp on a dyno (more than my stock block could probably handle right now). Not sure about his fueling or his tuner. MS6 3071 dyno

Is my stock catback really a restriction for the gtx3076 w/EWG?

My only thought is that is might not be when it's dumping, but maybe it would slow spool time?

Most people have already upgraded their catback by the time they go BT so it's probably never an issue.
__________________
3rd rebuild on the way...maybe...
Cheapspeed is offline   Reply With Quote
 Old 11-21-2014, 02:38 PM   #61
 
maisonvi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: South Haven, MI
Posts: 3,490   (View Stats)
iTrader: (20)
Rep Power: 0
maisonvi is the leader of the worldmaisonvi is the leader of the worldmaisonvi is the leader of the worldmaisonvi is the leader of the worldmaisonvi is the leader of the worldmaisonvi is the leader of the worldmaisonvi is the leader of the worldmaisonvi is the leader of the worldmaisonvi is the leader of the worldmaisonvi is the leader of the worldmaisonvi is the leader of the world
Thanks: 2,824
Thanked 4,968 Times in 1,844 Posts
Groans: 75
Groaned at 10 Times in 10 Posts
Not Ranked  0 score     
Default

Originally Posted by Cheapspeed View Post
I posted this in Edge's BT question thread but got no responses.

I did a search and didn't find much on it, besides a speed6 that went on a 3071 EWG w/stock cat back and upgraded TMIC and still made like 390whp on a dyno (more than my stock block could probably handle right now). Not sure about his fueling or his tuner. MS6 3071 dyno

Is my stock catback really a restriction for the gtx3076 w/EWG?

My only thought is that is might not be when it's dumping, but maybe it would slow spool time?

Most people have already upgraded their catback by the time they go BT so it's probably never an issue.
I had my hta3076 EWG tuned to about 365whp on 93 with the stock exhaust (catless DP though) Put on a Greddy TI-C 80mm exhaust and with no changes in the tune, I picked up 15whp. So yeah, I bet its holding you back.
rfinkle2 likes this.
__________________
Franken Turbo, built motor, meth.
DIY parts: Shift Knob, Shift Plate, Shift Bushings, Battery Tray, EBCS, RSB, probably more.
"Your signature should just say, I'm the shit." -LynzeC
maisonvi is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to maisonvi For This Useful Post:
Cheapspeed (11-21-2014), Easter Bunny (11-24-2014), rfinkle2 (11-21-2014), sho (11-22-2014)
 Old 03-09-2015, 09:11 PM   #62
 
PL ENDO's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: SNEADS FERRY NC
Posts: 883   (View Stats)
iTrader: (3)
Rep Power: 0
PL ENDO is the leader of the worldPL ENDO is the leader of the worldPL ENDO is the leader of the worldPL ENDO is the leader of the worldPL ENDO is the leader of the worldPL ENDO is the leader of the worldPL ENDO is the leader of the worldPL ENDO is the leader of the worldPL ENDO is the leader of the worldPL ENDO is the leader of the worldPL ENDO is the leader of the world
Thanks: 49
Thanked 422 Times in 274 Posts
Groans: 5
Groaned at 31 Times in 12 Posts
Not Ranked  0 score     
Default

i would love to see how hotter and colder plugs would effect power. maybe get someone with a dyno day to do 3 pulls on different stage plugs with meth and e85 to see what would be best for fuel and boost levels.
PL ENDO is offline   Reply With Quote
 Old 03-11-2015, 09:01 AM   #63
 
King Scumbag's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: South Boston, MA
Posts: 2,384   (View Stats)
iTrader: (4)
Rep Power: 1392
King Scumbag is the leader of the worldKing Scumbag is the leader of the worldKing Scumbag is the leader of the worldKing Scumbag is the leader of the worldKing Scumbag is the leader of the worldKing Scumbag is the leader of the worldKing Scumbag is the leader of the worldKing Scumbag is the leader of the worldKing Scumbag is the leader of the worldKing Scumbag is the leader of the worldKing Scumbag is the leader of the world
Thanks: 1,475
Thanked 2,586 Times in 1,075 Posts
Groans: 13
Groaned at 8 Times in 8 Posts
Not Ranked  0 score     
Default

Originally Posted by Tokay444 View Post
It's always better to build for more power than you'll ever make.
Wise words from the grumpy old man. Signature worthy for sure.

Originally Posted by PL ENDO View Post
i would love to see how hotter and colder plugs would effect power. maybe get someone with a dyno day to do 3 pulls on different stage plugs with meth and e85 to see what would be best for fuel and boost levels.
Waht....

The proof is already out there between plugs and fueling or fueling and plugs

Just find two similar Gen speeds with the same exact modifications running the difference...Im sure you can find it..

Goodlike finding someone running all of that in a dyno day lol
__________________
07 BLACK MICA MS3
PATTY/JEFF BUILT MOTOR
BNRS3V2 349/344 VD 93 FREEKTUNE
E25 382/375 GSD DynoJet 141020
STOCK BLOCK

FREEK KORN TUNE 335whp/356wtq ENM 14 K04
~ Ordnance, Droppn' Warheads of Foreheads Since 1922 ~
BOSTON STRONG

Originally Posted by Tokay444 View Post
It's always better to build for more power than you'll ever make.
King Scumbag is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to King Scumbag For This Useful Post:
Easter Bunny (03-13-2015), Hammology (03-11-2015), Justin@Freektune (03-11-2015), Mauro_Penguin (03-11-2015), Tokay444 (03-11-2015)
 Old 03-11-2015, 05:46 PM   #64
Approved MSF Vendor
 
Justin@Freektune's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 954   (View Stats)
iTrader: (0)
Rep Power: 2479
Justin@Freektune is the leader of the worldJustin@Freektune is the leader of the worldJustin@Freektune is the leader of the worldJustin@Freektune is the leader of the worldJustin@Freektune is the leader of the worldJustin@Freektune is the leader of the worldJustin@Freektune is the leader of the worldJustin@Freektune is the leader of the worldJustin@Freektune is the leader of the worldJustin@Freektune is the leader of the worldJustin@Freektune is the leader of the world
Thanks: 3,022
Thanked 4,815 Times in 829 Posts
Groans: 1
Groaned at 8 Times in 8 Posts
Not Ranked  0 score     
Default

Originally Posted by PL ENDO View Post
i would love to see how hotter and colder plugs would effect power. maybe get someone with a dyno day to do 3 pulls on different stage plugs with meth and e85 to see what would be best for fuel and boost levels.

The key is reading the plugs. This is what happens when you go by he said she said (this is two steps colder in an ST cause fors racing says to use them on their tune) ImageUploadedByTapatalk1426121208.528671.jpg
Tokay444 likes this.
__________________
Custom Tuning for Mazdaspeed, Ford, and Subaru

Website- http://www.freektune.com/
PTE 6062
633HP/523TQ
First gen2 in 10's- 10.93@137 Atco NJ 11/14/15

Quickest/Fastest Mazdaspeed
First Gen 1 in the 9's 9.94@149.5
4/22/2017 New England Dragway
Justin@Freektune is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 10 Users Say Thank You to Justin@Freektune For This Useful Post:
09TrueRedGTX (03-12-2015), chaser27 (03-12-2015), Cheapspeed (03-11-2015), Easter Bunny (03-13-2015), Hammology (03-11-2015), King Scumbag (03-11-2015), Mauro_Penguin (03-11-2015), MD1032 (03-12-2015), SarcasticOne (03-11-2015), Tokay444 (03-11-2015)
 Old 03-11-2015, 06:35 PM   #65
 
King Scumbag's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: South Boston, MA
Posts: 2,384   (View Stats)
iTrader: (4)
Rep Power: 1392
King Scumbag is the leader of the worldKing Scumbag is the leader of the worldKing Scumbag is the leader of the worldKing Scumbag is the leader of the worldKing Scumbag is the leader of the worldKing Scumbag is the leader of the worldKing Scumbag is the leader of the worldKing Scumbag is the leader of the worldKing Scumbag is the leader of the worldKing Scumbag is the leader of the worldKing Scumbag is the leader of the world
Thanks: 1,475
Thanked 2,586 Times in 1,075 Posts
Groans: 13
Groaned at 8 Times in 8 Posts
Not Ranked  0 score     
Default

Originally Posted by Justin@Freektune View Post
The key is reading the plugs. This is what happens when you go by he said she said (this is two steps colder in an ST cause fors racing says to use them on their tune) Attachment 193366
oh so you do still post on the forums.. lol

2steps? really
__________________
07 BLACK MICA MS3
PATTY/JEFF BUILT MOTOR
BNRS3V2 349/344 VD 93 FREEKTUNE
E25 382/375 GSD DynoJet 141020
STOCK BLOCK

FREEK KORN TUNE 335whp/356wtq ENM 14 K04
~ Ordnance, Droppn' Warheads of Foreheads Since 1922 ~
BOSTON STRONG

Originally Posted by Tokay444 View Post
It's always better to build for more power than you'll ever make.
King Scumbag is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to King Scumbag For This Useful Post:
Easter Bunny (03-13-2015), Justin@Freektune (03-12-2015)
 Old 03-11-2015, 07:13 PM   #66
 
Cheapspeed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: McKinney, TX
Posts: 4,481   (View Stats)
iTrader: (1)
Rep Power: 0
Cheapspeed is the leader of the worldCheapspeed is the leader of the worldCheapspeed is the leader of the worldCheapspeed is the leader of the worldCheapspeed is the leader of the worldCheapspeed is the leader of the worldCheapspeed is the leader of the worldCheapspeed is the leader of the worldCheapspeed is the leader of the worldCheapspeed is the leader of the worldCheapspeed is the leader of the world
Thanks: 2,778
Thanked 2,652 Times in 1,429 Posts
Groans: 29
Groaned at 18 Times in 17 Posts
Not Ranked  0 score     
Default

Originally Posted by Justin@Freektune View Post
The key is reading the plugs. This is what happens when you go by he said she said (this is two steps colder in an ST cause fors racing says to use them on their tune) Attachment 193366
I've been telling the ST guys stock heats should be fine but nooooooo.
__________________
3rd rebuild on the way...maybe...
Cheapspeed is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to Cheapspeed For This Useful Post:
chaser27 (03-12-2015), Easter Bunny (03-13-2015), Justin@Freektune (03-12-2015)
 Old 03-12-2015, 05:34 AM   #67
 
MD1032's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: North Brunswick, NJ
Posts: 2,624   (View Stats)
iTrader: (2)
Rep Power: 1114
MD1032 is the leader of the worldMD1032 is the leader of the worldMD1032 is the leader of the worldMD1032 is the leader of the worldMD1032 is the leader of the worldMD1032 is the leader of the worldMD1032 is the leader of the worldMD1032 is the leader of the worldMD1032 is the leader of the worldMD1032 is the leader of the worldMD1032 is the leader of the world
Thanks: 4,644
Thanked 1,963 Times in 1,066 Posts
Groans: 143
Groaned at 5 Times in 5 Posts
Not Ranked  0 score     
Default

Damn, talk about cold. Never seen anything like that in my life. Even the very top of the ceramic is black.

Thank you for posting this guide, Rob. The only thing I am confused about is that methanol injection is marked "necessary" for 300-350 HP and "recommended" for 350-400 HP.

It seems from reading on here that I could make enough torque on just 93 with a big turbo to bend a rod, regardless of whether or not the in-cylinder temperatures would be safe for the long term. I am not sure. Some of the BT builds on here are poorly documented and I have discovered some authors are running methanol or E85 without documenting it (perhaps because it’s assumed…this is where my inner noob shows)…
__________________
2007 Mazdaspeed3 GT
MD1032 is offline   Reply With Quote
 Old 03-12-2015, 01:17 PM   #68
Daily Driver

 
Nitr0EngiE's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Tampa, Fl
Posts: 2,614   (View Stats)
iTrader: (9)
Rep Power: 868
Nitr0EngiE is the leader of the worldNitr0EngiE is the leader of the worldNitr0EngiE is the leader of the worldNitr0EngiE is the leader of the worldNitr0EngiE is the leader of the worldNitr0EngiE is the leader of the worldNitr0EngiE is the leader of the worldNitr0EngiE is the leader of the worldNitr0EngiE is the leader of the worldNitr0EngiE is the leader of the worldNitr0EngiE is the leader of the world
Thanks: 576
Thanked 1,427 Times in 757 Posts
Groans: 52
Groaned at 82 Times in 51 Posts
Not Ranked  0 score     
Default

Originally Posted by rfinkle2 View Post
I think that would be a good idea, but what I'm trying to do is make a HP mod path based on what are widely generally accepted facts vs opinions on what should be needed.

I guess the argument could be made that a RMM is essential if your car is making 350 hp, but I'd prefer the owner of the car choose the duro they are comfortable with etc.

E.g. people might think I'm nuts, but my car has never had anything but a RMM on it, and although I may put a PMM or TMM @ some point, I don't feel it necessary @ my power level. I'm not sure what power level they are needed really.

Same goes for plugs.. I am out in left field with my opinions on plugs, and I see some guys running stock range plugs making big HP, so there are a lot of what if's that are hard to cover with things that are probably best left up to the tuner or car owner.

I don't want to shoot down anyone's suggestions, and the mount idea was a good one, and I definitely considered it.. so please, keep the suggestions coming and they are appreciated.
To support this statement or at least provide contrast to it:

I have never had any luck with colder plugs my car always ends up fouling them out or they break or they just fucking suck and need replacing after 500 miles sometimes which results in misfiring out the ass under light boost or any boost, My car never runs better when I use stock plugs. (the NGK version if you notice has same model on it as OEM)
Nitr0EngiE is offline   Reply With Quote
 Old 03-12-2015, 02:39 PM   #69
 
King Scumbag's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: South Boston, MA
Posts: 2,384   (View Stats)
iTrader: (4)
Rep Power: 1392
King Scumbag is the leader of the worldKing Scumbag is the leader of the worldKing Scumbag is the leader of the worldKing Scumbag is the leader of the worldKing Scumbag is the leader of the worldKing Scumbag is the leader of the worldKing Scumbag is the leader of the worldKing Scumbag is the leader of the worldKing Scumbag is the leader of the worldKing Scumbag is the leader of the worldKing Scumbag is the leader of the world
Thanks: 1,475
Thanked 2,586 Times in 1,075 Posts
Groans: 13
Groaned at 8 Times in 8 Posts
Not Ranked  0 score     
Default

Originally Posted by Nitr0EngiE View Post
To support this statement or at least provide contrast to it:

I have never had any luck with colder plugs my car always ends up fouling them out or they break or they just fucking suck and need replacing after 500 miles sometimes which results in misfiring out the ass under light boost or any boost, My car never runs better when I use stock plugs. (the NGK version if you notice has same model on it as OEM)
I can +1 to you on this.


Can't tell you how many times and different plugs and gap sizes I've cycled through. OEM Ford plugs or stock heat range NGK plugs always ended up solving my problems and lasting much longer.
__________________
07 BLACK MICA MS3
PATTY/JEFF BUILT MOTOR
BNRS3V2 349/344 VD 93 FREEKTUNE
E25 382/375 GSD DynoJet 141020
STOCK BLOCK

FREEK KORN TUNE 335whp/356wtq ENM 14 K04
~ Ordnance, Droppn' Warheads of Foreheads Since 1922 ~
BOSTON STRONG

Originally Posted by Tokay444 View Post
It's always better to build for more power than you'll ever make.
King Scumbag is offline   Reply With Quote
 Old 03-12-2015, 03:01 PM   #70
Daily Driver

 
Nitr0EngiE's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Tampa, Fl
Posts: 2,614   (View Stats)
iTrader: (9)
Rep Power: 868
Nitr0EngiE is the leader of the worldNitr0EngiE is the leader of the worldNitr0EngiE is the leader of the worldNitr0EngiE is the leader of the worldNitr0EngiE is the leader of the worldNitr0EngiE is the leader of the worldNitr0EngiE is the leader of the worldNitr0EngiE is the leader of the worldNitr0EngiE is the leader of the worldNitr0EngiE is the leader of the worldNitr0EngiE is the leader of the world
Thanks: 576
Thanked 1,427 Times in 757 Posts
Groans: 52
Groaned at 82 Times in 51 Posts
Not Ranked  0 score     
Default

Originally Posted by SBMS316 View Post
I can +1 to you on this.


Can't tell you how many times and different plugs and gap sizes I've cycled through. OEM Ford plugs or stock heat range NGK plugs always ended up solving my problems and lasting much longer.
to add to that I have never had to replace stock plugs due to mis firing or failure or foulage btu I have had colder plugs cause me countless countless problems
Nitr0EngiE is offline   Reply With Quote
 Old 03-12-2015, 03:34 PM   #71
 
everton99's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Fort Worth, Texas
Posts: 1,044   (View Stats)
iTrader: (2)
Rep Power: 0
everton99 is the leader of the worldeverton99 is the leader of the worldeverton99 is the leader of the worldeverton99 is the leader of the worldeverton99 is the leader of the worldeverton99 is the leader of the worldeverton99 is the leader of the worldeverton99 is the leader of the worldeverton99 is the leader of the worldeverton99 is the leader of the worldeverton99 is the leader of the world
Thanks: 342
Thanked 399 Times in 247 Posts
Groans: 0
Groaned at 8 Times in 7 Posts
Not Ranked  0 score     
Default

I'll add my .02 cents to this. I have a few bolt ons (TMIC, HPFP, TBE, SRI+TIP, and Freektune) my car is making rather dismal power. No boost leaks or any problem. I was told by Justin to go back to my stock plugs after running both NGK and Densos and I actually (and take this with a grain of salt it is vDyno) picked up 18 HP and 8 pounds of torque. On 93 I'm now making 268/310.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
everton99 is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to everton99 For This Useful Post:
Easter Bunny (03-13-2015), Justin@Freektune (03-12-2015)
 Old 03-12-2015, 05:31 PM   #72
 
Cheapspeed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: McKinney, TX
Posts: 4,481   (View Stats)
iTrader: (1)
Rep Power: 0
Cheapspeed is the leader of the worldCheapspeed is the leader of the worldCheapspeed is the leader of the worldCheapspeed is the leader of the worldCheapspeed is the leader of the worldCheapspeed is the leader of the worldCheapspeed is the leader of the worldCheapspeed is the leader of the worldCheapspeed is the leader of the worldCheapspeed is the leader of the worldCheapspeed is the leader of the world
Thanks: 2,778
Thanked 2,652 Times in 1,429 Posts
Groans: 29
Groaned at 18 Times in 17 Posts
Not Ranked  0 score     
Default

Originally Posted by everton99 View Post
I'll add my .02 cents to this. I have a few bolt ons (TMIC, HPFP, TBE, SRI+TIP, and Freektune) my car is making rather dismal power. No boost leaks or any problem. I was told by Justin to go back to my stock plugs after running both NGK and Densos and I actually (and take this with a grain of salt it is vDyno) picked up 18 HP and 8 pounds of torque. On 93 I'm now making 268/310.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
By stock do you mean stock heat or oem? I wouldn't even know what an oem plug was.
__________________
3rd rebuild on the way...maybe...
Cheapspeed is offline   Reply With Quote
 Old 03-12-2015, 06:35 PM   #73
 
everton99's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Fort Worth, Texas
Posts: 1,044   (View Stats)
iTrader: (2)
Rep Power: 0
everton99 is the leader of the worldeverton99 is the leader of the worldeverton99 is the leader of the worldeverton99 is the leader of the worldeverton99 is the leader of the worldeverton99 is the leader of the worldeverton99 is the leader of the worldeverton99 is the leader of the worldeverton99 is the leader of the worldeverton99 is the leader of the worldeverton99 is the leader of the world
Thanks: 342
Thanked 399 Times in 247 Posts
Groans: 0
Groaned at 8 Times in 7 Posts
Not Ranked  0 score     
Default

Originally Posted by Cheapspeed View Post
By stock do you mean stock heat or oem? I wouldn't even know what an oem plug was.

Plugs that were in the car when I bought it from Mazda.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
everton99 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


LinkBacks (?)
LinkBack to this Thread: http://www.mazdaspeedforums.org/forum/f699/hp-level-essentials-178531/
Posted By For Type Date
Cobb Stage 3 Power Package??? Worthwhile or Worthless??? - Page 5 This thread Pingback 05-18-2015 09:20 PM

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
10 Essentials for the Perfect Road Trip Haltech Automotive News 0 11-10-2011 09:00 AM
The 8 Essentials for Every Garage—How to Get Started Haltech Automotive News 0 06-08-2011 04:50 AM
The Saturday Mechanic's Shop Essentials Haltech Automotive News 0 04-19-2010 01:00 PM
Nero 8 Essentials $3.95 Free Shipping Haltech Hot Deals Section 0 04-10-2008 07:40 AM
Nero 8 Essentials $3.95 Free Shipping Haltech Hot Deals Section 0 04-03-2008 11:20 AM


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 03:09 AM.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO ©2011, Crawlability, Inc.
vB.Sponsors
Template-Modifications by TMS
©Copyright 2008 ; 2018 Cymru Internet Services LLC | FYHN™ Autosports HQ
Ad Management plugin by RedTyger
Page generated in 0.97076 seconds with 41 queries