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| ![]() ![]() ![]() Under Parts I would start with a "General Build Path" section to talk about the order of bolt-ons. Hopefully that will eliminate most of the stupid questions regarding what to buy in what order.
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| ![]() In the tuning section, even though there's going to be some overlap in the Boost/Timing portions, it might behove us to have a "load" portion. This will be quite important for the newbs who don't really understand the ECU's strategies with respect to hitting various targets. I know it's not the most popular concept, but I firmly believe that having a subsection dedicated to fuel economy would be good too, though that could be in the fueling area.
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I think it's a good idea to reduce those questions, just in general terms.
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We can also embed MAF cals to go with the intakes list.
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| ![]() ![]() ![]() Yeah guys, load or whatever other things makes sense in the tuning section. I just made some high level quick examples, not a complete list. I'd imagine MAF calibration, throttle tables, knock tables, etc are all applicable with what they mean, how to monitor them, how to adjust them and what adjusting them does. I think some model specific stuff is useful too. Tuning can probably be shared but there are definitely very model specific things too when you look past the MS3/MS6. Also, random question or something for consideration...are big turbo's and engine build's their own section or do they belong in parts? Oh and definitely a NATOR page to explain it to the masses, even if it's just populated with the sticky description.
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(Thread Starter) | ![]() ![]() ![]() The goal of this is to replace sticky threads, provide a permanent living place for hard information and leave discussions to the forums.
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| ![]() ![]() ![]() That's the key, living. The sticky's it's hard to tell if they're still relevant and not everyone can edit/update them. This way we have a place where the good content can continue to be updated as the platform advances. It's also a nice way of being able to search everything in a friendly format.
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(Thread Starter) | ![]() ![]() ![]() This is the format I'm running with right now; the goal being to keep data centralized and update main sections with minor subsections for each year; there's no point in having pages dedicated to say, setting boost levels when that can be explained all on one page. Edit: I'm saying the relevant pages will have information or at least link to sub pages with the relevant information for a particular model/year.
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| ![]() ![]() ![]() It's not tied to the permissions of the site...besides, this should draw more people in to MSF in the first place.
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(Thread Starter) | ![]() ![]() ![]() The real detriment is that anyone will be able to get this information; they don't have to even have an account on MSF. Perhaps we should make it login based, and do admin-authed logins with a specific process tied to MSF with some kind of verification process...or somehow tie in MSF auth to the wiki. @Haltech; how much information can a non MSF member (guests) get from the forums? Do they get access to all the stickies on learning to tune, intakes, and everything else?
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| ![]() ![]() ![]() Parts and Modification - Mazdaspeed Forums Mazdaspeed 3/6 Wikispeedia Start filling it in, there are categories ![]()
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Will do tonight. Mentioning suspension folks to get things moving, mostly because I can't contribute much to the ms6 suspension area. @Nliiitend1 @Tomas @phate @sac02 @Design @Bap @helmetface @Deldran @silvapain @Code Monkey @KevinK2 @Mattyhawk1 @Todd98SE @hnda etr @Neverlift Last edited by zenit; 03-19-2014 at 07:39 PM. | |
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| ![]() ![]() ![]() *Phew* Outlined most of the suspension pages. Added some wheel information to the "Tire" page... I'm not sure what definitive, cite-able information we can add on to the "Tires" page. Wheels on the other hand... @Mattyhawk1, if you have the time, these sections could your eye for formatting/layout. |
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(Thread Starter) | ![]() ![]() ![]() I'd break down the tires page based on user reviews of common (and currently available) tire compounds/sizes. The wheels page should be broken down based on model/year and go over what wheel AND tire sizes work with what offsets and suspension lowering rates (with a tie in to the suspension page, which should be broken down in a similar fashion and link back to the wheel page).
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| ![]() ![]() ![]() The page looks good so far you guys, keep it up. As far as the stage builds, how are you going about that? Like the first stage would be an Intake, CBE, AP and HPFP? Pertaining the fuel pumps, would you just be adding the different manufactures of the FP's like CS, autotech, kmd and listing prices and failure rates? Edit: Failure rate not needed, autotechs sell the most and would most likely have the highest failure rate despite being used by most |
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| ![]() ![]() ![]() Something else that concerns me though, it may run into situations that Wikipedia ran into back in the day. Since anyone can modify info (and you know this thing has the potential to get big) how is quality control going to be managed? What is going to keep someone from messing with established info on a page and/or accidentally deleting info? You could have administrators for each section who could make sure changes were acceptable before publishing content, but the work load and volunteer staff would be pretty high. |
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I'll definitely work on restructuring/moving things around, hopefully putting data in table format or on separate sub-pages. I may move brakes up one level, as it's not really "suspension" per say, kind of like wheels & tires. I'll be gone all day today- so maybe tomorrow. | |
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| ![]() ![]() ![]() I agree there should be some sort of oversight. But not only oversight in that someone is looking over it. The person looking over it should have some expertise/knowledge in that field. An example would be Enki policing an e85 fueling section. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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