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 Old 05-12-2008, 10:27 AM   #1
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Default Things I need for installing my WI kit and other questions

Alright, I ordered my Devil's Own progressive kit last night, and with any luck it will be here by Thursday. I want to get this thing installed ASAP so I'm trying to compile a list of items I'll need outside of the kit itself so I can collect them during the week. I've determined that I'll probably want the following:

-Drill: (for mounting the pump and making a hole for the injector)
-Tap for 1/8 NPT threads with corresponding drill bit
-Add-a-circuit for pump power supply (fuse F30, perhaps?)
-Zip ties to keep hose where I want it
-Soldering iron for tapping into the MAP sensore wire (per dvldoc the comes with wire taps too)
-Pin/ECU diagram: ECU Diagram and Pinouts
-Voltmeter and test light if you don't trust the above diagrams

I'll keep this list up-to-date based on responses so it can be used by other people doing the install.

Other questions:
Q: I'd prefer to put the injector in a silicone/rubber pipe rather than a hard pipe if possible. I'm assuming the silicone/rubber pipe on the IC cold side would be the best place to do this?

Q: What would I need to keep the injector in place if it weren't threaded into a hard pipe? Would some silicone gasket maker be enough or would I need something else?
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Our nozzles come with a rubber bonded washer that creats a air tight seal when tighten downed and is held in place by the hex on the nozzle body.
Q: Should the injector be angled to flow with the air or does it not matter?
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It does not matter how you mount the nozzle is placed, It's comming out at to high of a psi to matter inside a pipe under 4" ID. Our nozzles are also specialy designed to creat further low pressure effect over the nozzle when airflow passes over them to give you the best atomization of any nozzle.
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Good deal, i think you will like this kit. I think Snow has a kit to tap silicone tubes.. Devil should be able to clarify this for you.
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Our nozzles come with a rubber bonded washer that creats a air tight seal when tighten downed and is held in place by the hex on the nozzle body.

Our kit includes some pretty slick wire taps,
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But due to the fact some MAP sensor wires are 26gauge I would recommend soldering the wires. Stip down a 1/4 of the wire and wrap it to the exposed map wire then solder.

You need to find where your going to run the wire through the firewall as well, And if you don't mind take a pic of the map and let eveyone know which one is the 5v out.

You also need a voltmeter and test light. The voltmeter is to verify the voltage on the map sensor and make sure your hooking it to the right wire.
The test light will be to make sure you hook the controller to a ignition on source.

It does not matter how you mount the nozzle is placed, It's comming out at to high of a psi to matter inside a pipe under 4" ID. Our nozzles are also specialy designed to creat further low pressure effect over the nozzle when airflow passes over them to give you the best atomization of any nozzle.

The progressive kits has 10ft wires to the MAP and to the Pump plus 10ft of black and red wire so you still have more than enough to do a trunk mount if you wanted to.
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Awesome! I haven't looked at the wiring diagram yet. I assumed it was just something like power, ground, and on/off signal to the pump and power, ground, and MAP signal to the controller with the pump on/off out. There's a good ECU harness diagram around here somewhere so the MAP sensor shouldn't be difficult to find.
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Here's a generic for a GM Map sensor. The grey wire only is used when your powering a map sensor independent of your vehicle. Like you wanted to add a 3bar map sensor for your controller to read and leave the stock one alone.

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ECU Diagram and Pinouts

OK, just found this pinout diagram. So there's a signal power and signal ground as well. I'm assuming the pump power itself is 12V. But who knows. I guess I'll just wait until it arrives before I start making assumptions about the wiring. I'm likely going to route the wires and the tube through the passenger-side firewall break. Mostly just because I need to take the glovebox off anyway to fix a rattle.
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OK, please write up a "how-to" when you do the install . I will be getting mine very soon.......
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Originally Posted by flashfrenzy View Post
ECU Diagram and Pinouts

OK, just found this pinout diagram. So there's a signal power and signal ground as well. I'm assuming the pump power itself is 12V. But who knows. I guess I'll just wait until it arrives before I start making assumptions about the wiring. I'm likely going to route the wires and the tube through the passenger-side firewall break. Mostly just because I need to take the glovebox off anyway to fix a rattle.

With the progressive kit the controller powers the pump with the Blue wire just like in the diagram, With the boost activated you use a relay. Our directions are pretty detailed for installs.

But it would be good to know what wire is the MAP 5v out so we can add it to our vehicle specific install files were making.
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Originally Posted by winniep View Post
OK, please write up a "how-to" when you do the install . I will be getting mine very soon.......
Haltech's been saying that he's going to do a write-up soon. He's the WI guru around here so I'd definitely take his write-up over mine. I'll try to remember to take pictures of my install to help fill in any potential gaps in his write-up.

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With the progressive kit the controller powers the pump with the Blue wire just like in the diagram, With the boost activated you use a relay. Our directions are pretty detailed for installs.

But it would be good to know what wire is the MAP 5v out so we can add it to our vehicle specific install files were making.
According to that diagram, the MAP signal wire is 2AG which is a white/green wire on the top row, seven pins from the left. If you need the signal ground and power reference voltages, those are 2AU and 2AV respectively. This should be on the connector closest to the front of the car.
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I am running a MAP clamp at the moment........... how would this effect things? Also, wouldn't the wires that my map clamp is wired into be the ones I would need to tap for the WI? The reason I want a how-to so bad is that I HATE wiring. Therefore I get all OCD when it comes to doing it and check my wires like 10 times over before making that final solder........... or tap.......or whatever. So basically, if there was no how to I would NEVER get it done because days later I would still be going "OK, are you SURE this is the wire to tap............
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