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| MazdaSpeed 3/6 - Suspension & Brakes Discussion for suspension items like coilovers, springs, sway bars, mounts,chassis bracing and brakes. |
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04-09-2008, 05:42 AM
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| Zoom, pshoo, pop, Zoom...  |  Anyone riding on MS Coil-overs or Springs? I would like to hear about MS coilovers or springs... I'm trying to decide on springs or coilovers... I would love some coilovers, but at $1K or more I don't know if I'll be able to justify that... All I'm looking for is to increase front end traction (reduce wheel-spin) by reducing the weight transfer to the rear; damn car feels like a seesaw... In addition, I'm looking to firm up high-speed stability and reduce that floating... Thanks!! |
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04-09-2008, 05:48 AM
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| Im on the coilovers.... I dont get any wheel hop and the car feels like a fire hydrant. I highly recommend them. The ride is definitely harsher....but in a good way. With all my power.... when Im into it on the windies the coilovers make a HUGE difference from before. Drop looks good too. Im on the recommended settings.... I havent fiddled with them since they went on.
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04-09-2008, 06:20 AM
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| Zoom, pshoo, pop, Zoom... | Are you on the MS coilovers? Did you also install the camber arms? Did it really drastically improve traction? I'm not looking to lower the car or anything...maybe 0.5"-1.0" at most. Thanks for the info!! I was looking at the BCs and they seem like a bang for your buck...but the vast amount of adjustment scares me away from them. I'm looking for something to tune (easily tuned) and pretty much forget... Also, did you find with your coilovers that you gained a little more clearance between the tires and the shock/strut? |
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04-09-2008, 06:30 AM
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| Im on ms coilovers yes. I cant say I gained a ton more clearance because I dont know what it was previously. Im dropped about 1.25-1.4 front and back.... max drop for them. Ive got the spc adjustable camber arms for the rear. I havent installed them. I like the camber Ive got now and my tires arent wearing to unevenly. Ive got about 10,000 miles on this setup and tires.... they havent been rotated yet. i was going to do it soon.... tires still look good..youd never guess there was even an issue with camber and wear. I dont know if im going to put those arms on.... if you decide you want some hit me up.... theyre brand new in the box from PG. I just had second thoughts after driving the car as long as I have... alignment was never an issue. Put the coilovers on and the car was aligned but nothing really even neeeded to be done.
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04-09-2008, 06:39 AM
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| Zoom, pshoo, pop, Zoom... | Thanks palerider... The info helps. I might just have to starting getting used to the idea of dishing out $1K-$1.3K for suspension... Oh and tell me about adjustability... What can you adjust on them besides height? Do you think you can tune them to be as comfortable as stock? So you don't find a need for camber plates up front either...? Thanks again!! |
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04-09-2008, 06:59 AM
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| The front drop stayed within factory spec for camber remarkably. The back went slightly out of the spec recommendations... Im thinking i the 3-4* range... geez dont hold me to that though. Like i said... there just hasnt been an issue. I dialed in the factory dampening spec.... rolled em the hell down... installed.... drove off and..... very nice!! Huge difference and the car didnt pull that day!!!! i still went to get aligned a couple days later... they jimmied a little with front toe... but i dont think it was really even necessary. Toe was in spec... we just went from a little toe out to in I think. I dont know about making it feel stock.... why would you? I think with all the settings though you could come awful close. I think you could make it a hell of a lot stiffer than i got it too.
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04-09-2008, 11:34 AM
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| I'm on the MS springs and rear camber links. Been riding & tracking the car with them for 20K miles or more. For the cheaper investment, they offer a good return. You don't get as dramatic a "slammed" look as with the coilovers. And I'm sure the coilovers offer advantages worth their price. The ride with the MS springs is noticably stiffer but by no means harsh. Turn-in and cornering stability/roll control is quite improved. | ||||||||
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04-10-2008, 06:23 AM
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| Zoom, pshoo, pop, Zoom... | Yeah, not really interested in a "slammed" look...  More of a performance enhancement... Thanks for the feedback!!  I'm really trying to convince myself to go with the coilovers...  |
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04-10-2008, 07:17 AM
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| I think that either way you go, you are going to want what you don't have. Here is what I think you should do... 1. Buy MS Springs 2. Install and Test 3a. Love them and keep them (see 4a) 3b. Hate them and sell them to TurboWagon (see4b) 4a. Give us a report 4b. Buy MS Coilovers 5. Give us a report From experience, I dont think coilovers are worth it FOR ME, at least right now. I am heavily leaning towardfs the MS Springs just to retain that "semi-stock" appearance and value is I ever try and sell it down the road. If I was taking the car to the track at least twice a month or so I might consider the MS Coils but since I will be DDing the car, from what I have read about peoples experience with the springs is that most are satisfied. On another note. Does anyone know how long Mazda parts and accessories will be available for our cars once production on this Generation ends?
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04-10-2008, 11:46 AM
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| has anybody got a .pdf or link of the current MS3 accessories catalog? Every time I visit my local Mazda dealership they have them for every other Mazda vehicle except the Speed3 ? | ||||||||
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