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| MazdaSpeed 3/6 - Suspension & Brakes Discussion for suspension items like coilovers, springs, sway bars, mounts,chassis bracing and brakes. |
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| It's been a long time coming. Eibach has prototyped, then track tested, then finalized their MS3 Pro-Kit, PN# 5549.140 People, like me, have used the regular 3 Pro-Kit on the MS3, and while it does lower the car wonderfully, it also gives up a little bit in the rate department vs. the stock springs, so what you gain in lower center of gravity, you lose due to the rate difference. This new kit will evidently be available through select outlets after the first week of September. check this out- front rates 160lbs-239lbs rear rates 148lbs-228lbs the lowering amount will be .8" in the front and .7" in the back. this is to minimize camber tire wear while offering the best performance possible with stock dampers. I can't wait.
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| Trying to be like you | good to hear especially since i will be in the spring market. you think these can be used with the stock shocks? |
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| 100% yes, i'm sure. that is what Pro-Kits are designed to do- work wonderfully with stock dampers, giving the maximum amount of performance that can be had before you have to add camber kits and/or aftermarket dampers.
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| glad to hear, i had pro kits on my last car and loved them. what i am not sure about yet though is that these will actually be any different then the ones you already have but some official specs can help dispell that worry
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| I've had prokits on other cars and they are great. glad to see this is finally going to be an option. Not sure if they will drop an inch, since we already sit pretty low, but i'm sure it will have a nice flat stance. if they work with the stock shocks I'll be on board. OT - builthatch, you got a boxer? they are great dogs | ||||||||
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| This is good news.
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| I cant believe you USA guys cant get the prokit springs specific for your speed3's direct from europe Here in Australia we have eibach prokit springs specific for the MPS3 (part number E10-55-008-05-22), Europe also has these springs available. I have these springs in my MPS 3 and think they are a good allrounder, they lowered my car just under 25mm front and just over 15mm rear. Car sits nice and doesnt look like its dumped on its guts. | ||||||||
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there are two answers. the first answer is that it's ultimately cheaper to make the springs here at the US facility, for the US market, as opposed to getting them made in germany and shipping them here. it also allows the US guys to track test it and produce it to exact spec for what works for the north american market vehicle. that plays into the second answer- sometimes, the vehicles are indeed different in some manner between the markets, enough to make a difference with how picky Eibach is with issuing kits. this might not be true with the ms3/mps3/axela, but considering the cost advantages to doing things stateside...they'll do it anyway. now, that doesn't mean that R&D from germany won't be used as a baseline for the US product, and fine tuned from there into production. another slight advantage to this type of situation is there is that opportunity to fine tune the original R&D, if needed. Eibach is well known for not making running changes after issuing a part, despite the rush to get it to market.
check this out- front rates 160lbs-239lbs rear rates 148lbs-228lbs the lowering amount will be .8" in the front and .7" in the back. this is to minimize camber tire wear while offering the best performance possible with stock dampers. and yes, i have a boxer, and he's 10000% awesome. his name is Reuben- he's a fawn 60lb runt male. He's 3.5 years old now.
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