GI for GB on IDRVSLO Liquid to Water Intercooler Kit

[IDRVSLO]

Hi fellow MS3 owners! Before I get started I want to give you a little background on myself. I am currently enlisted in the United States Army and am located at Ft Lewis WA. I am a 19D Cavalry Scout at the rank of Staff Sergeant. I have been serving our great country for 5 years and enjoy my work but my true passion is working on cars. I am extremely active in the local Mazda community and have numerous references that will vouch for my work and trustworthy ways.

As some of you might know I have just recently completed a Liquid to Air Intercooler (L/A IC) for the MS3 and based on interest among the forums I am looking to bring this kit to the market. The complete kit will be built on a by order basis and will take 5-10 initial orders to get the ball rolling. I can take on as many orders as I am given and of course the more orders the better. Lets start of with a quick explanation of what a Liquid to Air Intercooler is and what the advantages are of running this set up.

As per Wikipedia:
Air-to-liquid intercoolers (aka Charge-Air-Coolers) are heat exchangers that reject intake charge heat to an intermediate fluid, usually water, which finally rejects heat to the air. These systems use radiators in other locations, usually due to space constraints, to reject unwanted heat, similar to an automotive radiator cooling system. Air-to-liquid intercoolers are usually heavier than their air-to-air counterparts due to additional components making up the system (water circulation pump, radiator, fluid, and plumbing).

A big advantage of the air-to-liquid setup is the lower overall pipe and intercooler length, which offers faster response (lowers turbo lag), giving peak boost faster than most front-mount intercooler setups. Some setups can use reservoirs that can have ice put into it for intake temperatures lower than ambient air, giving a big advantage (but of course, ice would need constant replacement).

Ford had adopted the technology when they decided to use forced induction (via Supercharger) on their Mustang Cobra and Ford Lightning truck platforms. It uses a water-cooled intercooler inside the intake manifold, just under the supercharger, and has a long heat exchanger front mounted, all powered by a Bosch pump made for Ford. Ford still uses this technology today with their Shelby GT500.

Now with that out of the way lets get down to what makes the IDRVSLO L/A IC kit the right choice to go with. Professional quality set up. Everything has been thought through and then thought through again. I did not just slap these parts in here and call it a day. The fitment is excellent, all pipes allow for plenty of clearance where needed. You have the ability to reverse the install if needed because there is no cutting of factory wires involved or tabs.

Once I installed the kit I immediately saw a decrease in boost temperatures by 15 degrees. I am running at or 15 degrees above ambient temperatures. Going from a FMIC and the factory TMIC I saw boost increase of 3 psi. Why does this occour? Most intercoolers have a significant amount of pressure drop. The L/A IC setup has a pressure drop of ONLY .1psi....yeah you read that right. This will give your turbo the ability to not work so hard just to hit the same target boost levels. Lag....yeah right! I hit boost immediately, the pipes are so short that the thought of lag is inconceivable.

Here is quick down and dirty break down of the kit and what comes with it

Heat Exchanger
Bosch Water Pump
L/A IC
Fan
Remote location filler cap
Fittings(these are extremely high quality professional grade components)
Hoses cut to length(this hose requires no worm clamps and is rated up to 250 psi)
Brackets(all hand made from aluminum, pre drilled)
Bolts/Nuts/Washers
Battery relocation kit(still working the price on that, trying to lower it)
Instructions

Each piece will be tested for fitment prior to shipment, there will be a few options I have to work out on the heat exchanger(2" or 3.5" core) and piping(flat black or raw finish)

Now down to pricing. I am not going to try and hide the fact that this isnt your basic piping and intercooler kit. There are more components, along with that are some serious advantages. I have worked up a rough estimate of 950.oo per kit. I am working to lower that cost but the amount of buyers will change it as with any GB. I can do as many kits as are ordered so back orders are not an issue. I do however expect a 2-3 week delay to get the first kits out just based on initial production and set up. All kits will need to be paid for upfront. You know what I do for a living and have to understand that I cannot put out 9000+ in parts on my own.

Please if you have any questions or concerns come forth now. The only issue that I see is the intake setup. I obviously am running the COBB and will need to check with a few locals for fitment with CAIs. I will start a list and see how many SERIOUS people we have then adjust prices accordingly. Thanks for looking!

BTW I have a buddy with a MS6 that I will be doing a kit for shortly!

[MS3 Ventura]

Yes I'm interested. What gains will this give? Thanks

[IDRVSLO]

Gains are somewhat unknown based on the fact that I havent dynoed it yet. But the simple fact that boost temps drop and the pressure drop is so small the gains will be sweet!

[Godspeed]

Will this kit have a reservoir option for ice?

[MS3 Ventura]

Originally Posted by IDRVSLO Gains are somewhat unknown based on the fact that I havent dynoed it yet. But the simple fact that boost temps drop and the pressure drop is so small the gains will be sweet!

When do you think you'll have the dyno results? Will you be able to compare the gains from a FMIC vs. this? Thanks... and still very interested.

[IDRVSLO]

Dyno results will be on the 1st. I can probably add a resevoir option at an additional charge

[Godspeed]

Considering the almost zero pressure drop, I'm sure it will lose less power than a FMIC. This means it should easily dyno higher than a FMIC.

[ATE BALLER]

Nice, I might be down for the battery relocation, piping, and a different core (MS6). Mine has an awsome core and all, but I'm trying to move the MAF sensor to the cold pipe, which means I have to have a straight 12-18" on the cold side (not plausable with my bored out stock cold pipe). I already have a pump, heat exchanger and hoses installed, so I wouldn't be changing those out.

[Lex]

I really like this and I am waiting for the dyno results.

[MazdaMan13]

ate baller does that mean your going to be sellin your core once you get this ic? i'm interested

[racebitz]

Originally Posted by MazdaMan13 ate baller does that mean your going to be sellin your core once you get this ic? i'm interested

I believe he is making the kits as copies of his setup, not upgrading.

Good luck with the kits, if the exchange rate wasnt so bad ATM i would consider one, but im goin to make one up and see how i go. Maybe if the Ozzy $ bumps up i might re consider. Will be good to see the dyno figures.

Jason