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Well, I got on the dyno tonight. I have the mods in my sig. Don't have much to say other than it wasn't amazing but it wasn't bad! Ill get some scans of these charts ASAP, I am out of town though so it might be a couple of days.
314/349. Log from just the first run is attached. BATs were RETARD high on the FIRST run and the big shop fan wasn't working, so they must have been through the roof by the last run. It definitely had more in it. Also of note, my AFRs were acting up on that first run and it was going rich. I logged on the way to work today and it was hitting the 12.4 targets jut fine so no idea why that happened.


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What turbo are you on?
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That's pretty damn impressive Buckler.

Looks like run 001? That's straight from the street to the rollers? You seem to have it dialed in real nice. Love the torque curve!
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no bad for a stock turbo!!!!
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Yeah, I just did 3 power runs. Didn't touch the tune while I was there (The shop was closing as I was getting strapped down haha). For some reason it got rich though. I target and hold 12.4 on the street, but it was more like 12.0 or richer in that first run. Like I said, the BATs are 130+ too. Meh, I know it has more in it.
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Wow working that little guy overtime. 100% wgd for a lot of the map.
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nice numbers on the stock turbo. you got my hopes up on my little snail
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Yeah I don't seem to hold boost over 5300 at all. I can do 21+ to there then BAM it drops to 16.x with 100% WGDC. I am going to eventually get my Grimmspeed on there and get it spinning a bit faster.

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You have 100% wastegate duty, I don't think you're going to get higher boost with a boost controller. The only way to get more is opening up to more flow mods, and it looks like you're pretty much fully bolted.
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that dyno is happy
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that dyno is happy
No bro, it's e85. His numbers are not surprising, though they still kick ass!

Look at Phate's thread, he has less mods but is on 100% e85. Also, I'm sure when @bewsted dyno's his ghetto set up, he will be right there with bucker and phate... I mean shit, read what bewsted says in the e 85 thread... It's something along the lines of, "I can't really log 3rd anymore cuz my tires just spin".

Oh and bucker, I should groan you for saying that you weren't amazed! You are still making great power even if it was to be expected. That car has to be a blast to drive.

Crazy how those bats don't seem to be a problem at all with e85! I know that it has something to do with the cooling effect as discussed in phate's thread, but it is still funny to see on paper!
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The car could make more power with lower bats though and everyone knows that.


I'm not putting my ghetto ass car on the dyno until after bt....
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that dyno is happy
Actually a couple years back, I dropped over 30hp on that dyno. Vs a dynojet

What was the correction buck?
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fully bolted with e85, makes sense

but it's that FYHN sticker pushing you over 300
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Actually a couple years back, I dropped over 30hp on that dyno.

What was the correction buck?
Uhh all I see that might be some sort of correction is "STD: 1.06" but I asked for uncorrected printouts. I'm gonna get this thing running right again and try to get on another dyno with a working big fan, lol.
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Originally Posted by Ckmazdaspeed3 View Post
No bro, it's e85. His numbers are not surprising, though they still kick ass!

Look at Phate's thread, he has less mods but is on 100% e85. Also, I'm sure when @bewsted dyno's his ghetto set up, he will be right there with bucker and phate... I mean shit, read what bewsted says in the e 85 thread... It's something along the lines of, "I can't really log 3rd anymore cuz my tires just spin".

Oh and bucker, I should groan you for saying that you weren't amazed! You are still making great power even if it was to be expected. That car has to be a blast to drive.

Crazy how those bats don't seem to be a problem at all with e85! I know that it has something to do with the cooling effect as discussed in phate's thread, but it is still funny to see on paper!
word. im going to the dyno tomorrow. DJ sent me my last few e85 maps to complete my tune. going to the dyno tomorrow, mustang. hopefully ill be hitting these numbers. this dyno is a tru heartbreak. and thats amoungst other MDs
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@Darksun280 because your numbers are CORRECTED you fucker
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I'd be willing to bet that there is more power to be had with lower timing....
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yea the big fan broke on Monday when i was there @Bucker , the delivery guy's hand cart rip the plug up. If it wasn't for that white car pushing us to closing we could have got a small fan up there and a water bottle to mist it.

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Originally Posted by Spilly View Post
Actually a couple years back, I dropped over 30hp on that dyno. Vs a dynojet

What was the correction buck?
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Uhh all I see that might be some sort of correction is "STD: 1.06" but I asked for uncorrected printouts. I'm gonna get this thing running right again and try to get on another dyno with a working big fan, lol.
Even without the correction those are great numbers.

uncorrected = 296 whp / 330 wtq
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Originally Posted by bewsted View Post
I'd be willing to bet that there is more power to be had with lower timing....
This is kinda my thoughts too. His timing is insanely high..... too high?????? who knows.
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This is kinda my thoughts too. His timing is insanely high..... too high?????? who knows.
Heres the issue: My table values are high, yes. My logged values, no so much. I really think the heat/ weird fueling thing played a big role in me not making a bit more power. Weird. I WILL lower my table values a little tonight though, especially the 2500 RPM range. Whats sucks is that I dont see myself getting on a dyno again any time soon.
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Bucker your car must feel like a beast! You and I have a very similar tune and I'm almost hitting the same load values.
How do you feel about the long term effects of E85 use? Any concerns there?

Your timing is re-cock-u-lus but glad to see it's working out!

As far as your WGDC's being maxed out so early....maybe you should go with an aftermarket WGA....might be able to hold boost longer. Does your car feel like it falls on its face by 5500 rpm?
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Bucker your car must feel like a beast! You and I have a very similar tune and I'm almost hitting the same load values.
How do you feel about the long term effects of E85 use? Any concerns there?

Your timing is re-cock-u-lus but glad to see it's working out!

As far as your WGDC's being maxed out so early....maybe you should go with an aftermarket WGA....might be able to hold boost longer. Does your car feel like it falls on its face by 5500 rpm?
Hey,

The car drives well. I think I am just used to it now though. If you look at the graph, thats how it feels haha, once it spools it just feels like it pulls all they way through, even though boost drops off it doesn't seem to fall on its face.
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Heres the issue: My table values are high, yes. My logged values, no so much. I really think the heat/ weird fueling thing played a big role in me not making a bit more power. Weird. I WILL lower my table values a little tonight though, especially the 2500 RPM range. Whats sucks is that I dont see myself getting on a dyno again any time soon.
If your logged values are not matching your requested values, check the max timing tables, and BAT vs ECT % used / BAT vs ECT retard tables. They shouldn't be running whatever willy nilly timing they want.

Good stuff though nonetheless. Grats on the power man!
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If your logged values are not matching your requested values, check the max timing tables, and BAT vs ECT % used / BAT vs ECT retard tables. They shouldn't be running whatever willy nilly timing they want.

Good stuff though nonetheless. Grats on the power man!
The tables are functioning properly. Max timing tables and all are in line, I think that my BAT/ECT comp tables were stepping in with the high BATs/ Coolant temps. Meh. Thanks though!
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Are you worried about going beyond MBT once your bats are lower?
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Are you worried about going beyond MBT once your bats are lower?
I think I am close to it right now. I just flashed a map that backs off timing to these values:


Which are slightly retarded where torque is highest. I can't really think of anything else I can do to squeeze out mucho power at this point... Its kinda sad.
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THe lower timing isnt what i think is scary..its the timing up top......14.5 @ 5k lol

BTW i lowered my hella down....my shit pulls about as hard as you do your cawk LOL
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Well my car is BEING pulled now, 0whp. Fucking ECU got bricked after then new AP update.
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Oh god.....I loaded Dusty's new tune, I came home and took logs off it, and it told me to update so I did...I haven't flashed my car yet since I haven't gotten a new tune yet...I hope this doesn't happen.

*Edit, I updated my AP, not ATR...didn't tell me too. SHould be ok then...
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Well my car is BEING pulled now, 0whp. Fucking ECU got bricked after then new AP update.
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Is update screwing more people than just you bucker? There a thread yet?
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Originally Posted by djuosnteisn View Post
Is update screwing more people than just you bucker? There a thread yet?
Afaik from combing the newest posts on ATR related threads, as long as

1) the version of ATR you are running is NOT beta, but updated as usual from the update screen

2) the latest AP firmware is used with #1

everything seems fine.

@Bucker posted in the gen2 atr thread that he and Cobb now feel it was a coincidence?
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